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Talk:White women's tears

2009-02-11T01:48:22Z

Jonquil: New page: (I deleted "in feminism" because the original RaceFail '09 didn't begin from feminism.)--~~~~

(I deleted "in feminism" because the original RaceFail '09 didn't begin from feminism.)--[[User:Jonquil|Jonquil]] 01:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

White women's tears

2009-02-11T01:47:35Z

Jonquil:

[[White women's tears]] was a joke referenced several times during [[RaceFail_09|RaceFail '09]]. It refers to the tendency of race and gender discussions to be derailed by white women into the pain the discussion is causing non-POC. It parodies the overwrought concern of "(missing) [[white woman syndrome]]" or WWS<ref>See: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome Missing white woman syndrome], in which the media focus disproportionately on missing white women over missing women of colour or other missing people.</ref>.

[[badgerbag]] created [http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/1182535.html an image] in [[delux_vivens]]'s journal.

== References ==
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[[category:Race and gender]]

White women's tears

2009-02-09T17:34:28Z

Jonquil:

[[White women's tears]] was a joke created during [[RaceFail_09|RaceFail '09]]. It refers to the tendency of race discussions to derail into the pain the discussion is causing non-POC.

[[badgerbag]] created [http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/1182535.html an image] in [[delux_vivens]]'s journal.

White women's tears

2009-02-09T17:32:59Z

Jonquil:

[[White women's tears]] was a joke created during RaceFail_09. It refers to the tendency of race discussions to derail into the pain the discussion is causing non-POC.

[[badgerbag]] created [http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/1182535.html an image] in [[delux_vivens]]'s journal.

White women's tears

2009-02-09T17:31:16Z

Jonquil: New page: White women's tears was a joke created during RaceFail 09. It refers to the tendency of race discussions to derail into the pain the discussion is causing non-POC. badgerbag created ...

[[White women's tears]] was a joke created during RaceFail 09. It refers to the tendency of race discussions to derail into the pain the discussion is causing non-POC.

badgerbag created [http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/1182535.html an image] in delux_vivens's journal.

Talk:Patrick Califia

2009-02-09T17:22:56Z

Jonquil: New page: The Feb 8 edit was mine; I don't know why it shows up as anonymous, since I at least thought I was logged in. --~~~~

The Feb 8 edit was mine; I don't know why it shows up as anonymous, since I at least thought I was logged in. --[[User:Jonquil|Jonquil]] 17:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:RaceFail 09

2009-02-07T18:28:10Z

Jonquil: /* Names and pseudonyms */

=Internal Links for Blog Post Titles=

I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc. That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward. -KTempest

:It's a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I'm not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:::The general rule of thumb for fair use is quoting 150 words. On my blog, I don't sweat this and on rare occasions when it becomes an issue I either remove the content, pay a fee for use, or both, but Wikis can exist only because of the willingness to put things under a free license (in this case GNU Free Documentation License 1.2), so in general one should adhere to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use fair use guidelines]. ([http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos.bml LJ's ToS] state the material is copyright by its author, which is as I expected.)--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:::I wouldn't say that rule of thumb is appropriate here (and I'd be curious of the context from which it is drawn: I'm guessing the publishing industry. "Best practices" frequently become far more normative than they were originally intended to be when it comes to fair use, and don't translate well to other contexts.). Fair use is a defence, not a hard and fast rule, and while this isn't legal advice, I'd suggest that Pleasantville's approach on her own blog is the best: don't sweat it. If someone is upset at being quoted, there are plenty of forms of conciliation that can be used before IP law needs to be invoked. Calling out (linking to) content would be almost certainly fine, copying-and-pasting beyond what's necessary for review and analysis will gradually shade into other issues. Our stuff on Chilling Effects on the [[http://www.chillingeffects.org/fairuse/faq.cgi Fair Use factors]] may be of use. --[[User:Mala|Mala]] 23:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Copyright attorney / co-admin of the FSFwiki weighing in: 150 is a rule of thumb adopted by some people / organizations, but it is just that -- a voluntary rule of thumb. It in no way reflects the state of the law, which is probably better termed, "as much as needed for a legitimate purpose." Documenting an event and the views, and important language that comes up, is unquestionably important; and so long as individual passages are not unnecessarily included (for instance, to try to or with the effect of supplanting the original) then I think we're okay. In short, it is a fact-specific analysis, and thus we can make our own assessment on a case-by-case basis. No rules of thumb apply. I feel very strongly about this. --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 23:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

::::I envisioned that whole posts would be pasted in when they were no longer available at their original location but were, at one point, public. Like Teresa's post. Otherwise, readers can click to the original to read the whole thing but stay on the page to see important highlights and get the gist of the discussion. [[User:Ktempest|Tempest]] 06:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)\
::::: That works for me. I'm going to take out the full text of things like David Levine's post which are still up, and replace it with links to the original. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 18:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

=Names and pseudonyms=

I'm really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver's license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?
- vito excalibur
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don't. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu

::: There's really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don't. -- vito excalibur

:::: I don't see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page. By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it's been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::: Which "we" is this? I don't need to know what name corresponds to a pseudonym in order to address that pseudonym's arguments. One of the central arguments in the debate was whether it was appropriate to use pseudonyms; outing someone who has explicitly chosen to be anonymous is cheap, and assumes a premise that was actually being debated. --[[User:Jonquil|Jonquil]] 22:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Seconded. I'm removing the outings. If you need to know who coffeeandink is, you can look at her *years* of public postings. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 22:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it's not, since she doesn't include that job on her LinkedIn page.) People don't just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
: Pleasantville, if you think it's so important, why don't you just put that on her wiki page? I don't see why that requires people to be divided into separate categories on this page. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 19:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::I did already. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not seeing why it's necessary to know that. coffeeandink's many years of posting about race, cultural appropriation, fandom, writing, internet drama, and massive fail stand firmly behind anything she has said in this particular discussion about Patrick, teresa, or anyone else involved. [[User:Ktempest|Tempest]] 06:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
::: I've just deleted the link to the LinkedIn page in your comment because [[coffeeandink]] does not want her LJ to be Googleable and connected to her full name. I hope we can respect that wish. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 22:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:::: I think that we can put that bit in about employment, which Pleasantville wants to be clear to outline some of the complexities of people's relationships. But I would like us to respect people's choices about pseudonymity as best we can. The need for anonymity is one of the reasons that women's history is hard to document. Let's do the best we can here. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 23:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: I was formulating an argument along these lines in the car on the way home, but you did it better. Thank you. --[[User:Jonquil|Jonquil]] 02:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't have my full name on my LJ because it's unique and I don't want it Google-able. Please remove the redirect and the page account.

I feel my first name is sufficiently unusual that people who are looking for the connection can draw it on their own.(request from coffeeandink 2009-02-06T17:38:53)

: Uh, yeeeahh. Speaking of which, does this Wiki have an outing policy? (Rather, an anti-outing policy?) Because if it doesn't, I foresee difficulties with outreach to media fannish communities. I did a quick search and didn't find anything.--[[User:Veejane|Veejane]] 00:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:: Good idea. We have [[FSFwiki:Privacy]], but perhaps it needs to be more specific. (Philosophically, I don't bother with pushing policy until it's an issue.) Veejane, do you have any examples? Or would you like to edit the [[FSFwiki:Privacy|current privacy policy]]? --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 11:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Neither of those wikilinks goes anywhere. The policy appears to be [[FSFwiki:Privacy_policy|here]] and about a sentence long. (I also think it should be linked from the Getting Started page, since a privacy policy is baseline information for my attitude towards a site.) You've had one outing, above, and I can still find that outing by comparing the history of edits. So although the identifying data have been deleted from the page, they're still there for anyone to find. Basically, the outing is still occurring even now. By contrast, another wiki I've worked on, [http://fanlore.org/wiki/Fanlore:Identity_Protection Fanlore], has a policy that not only requires removal of outing data, but also hides those particular edits from the history, so the data can't be recovered. It might also be worth asking what tools admins have to control malicious outing. Will that fall under a harassment policy? I.... can't find a harassment policy. This all sounds paranoid, I realize. But better to have a policy and not need it than be flailing in the middle of an emergency without one.--[[User:Veejane|Veejane]] 16:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:::: Veejane, no need to apologize for pushing for things like an outing policy and a harassment policy; they are things the wiki should probably have. I suspect it just hasn't needed them before now. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 17:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

This is minor, but related to the overall "real name" discussion. Is there a reason why Elizabeth Bear's full name is after her pen name on the page? It's not as if she is known by her full name (she's been going by Elizabeth Bear and eBear since I've known her, lo these 10 years), nor is knowing her full name of use in the conversation. She's not hiding, it's not a "fan name" (not that I think we necessarily need to connect fan names to "real names"), so why is it necessary? --Tempest
: Fair enough, I'ma take it out. Do you think she wouldn't want it up there and it should be a "hide from edit" thing, or just take it out? --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 17:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
: It looks like she's completely comfortable with it -- I Googled the pair of their names and there's an interview with her whose first paragraph gives her real name. [http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/authors/from_shakespeare_to_ragnarok_elizabeth_bear_keeps_busy_91271.asp] On the other hand, I don't know why the legal name is necessary in the Wiki. --[[User:Jonquil|Jonquil]] 18:28, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:RaceFail 09

2009-02-07T02:14:24Z

Jonquil: /* Names and pseudonyms */

Talk:RaceFail 09

2009-02-06T22:18:31Z

Jonquil: /* Names and pseudonyms */

Talk:RaceFail 09

2009-02-06T22:17:38Z

Jonquil: /* Names and pseudonyms */

RaceFail 09

2009-02-06T22:14:02Z

Jonquil: /* Dramatis personae */

RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.

(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it's mostly been described as "fail".)

== Timeline ==

(There is a good outline of one on avalon's willow's blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)

January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]

:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear's journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings. Inspired by a discussion on ''The Edge of the American West'' about "speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise." Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don't have "standing" to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction. The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail. A lot of 101-level thinking.

January 12, 2009: [[whatever you're doing, you're probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]

:The main source of fail. Bear explains how to write The Other.

January 13, 2009: [[I Didn't Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]

:Not a direct response to Bear's post, but triggered by it. "...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader."

January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon's Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]

:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you're doing, you're probably wrong.]]

::I'm not calling you a monster. I'm not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, ''sometimes'', does not erase my pain or lack.

January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else's liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]

:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon's Willow]]'s criticism is valid. Comments start out badly ("Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.") and go downhill quickly.

January 14, 2009: [[The Magical Other]], in which [[medievalist]] posts an explanation of phouka mythology in relation to ''[[Blood & Iron]]'' on [http://medievalist.livejournal.com/39227.html her LJ]. Post & discussion later [[flock|flocked]] or made private, then unlocked again.

:In [http://medievalist.livejournal.com/39227.html?thread=193339#t193339 a comment] left on Jan 16 below that entry, [[medievalist]] attacks [[Avalon's Willow]], saying among other things that "She's engaging in [[orcing]], performance art and pretty much [[blog-whoring]]."

January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon's Willow's open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]

:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up. Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]], [[medievalist]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn't academic enough and also because some readers aren't as smart as the writers they criticize.

(Some of these comments occur in a post by [[mac_stone]] about child abuse in relation to unspecified current discussion, including [[pnh]]'s "smart" comment)

(some other stuff here)
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica's LJ in discussion of mac_stone's statements)
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)

January 26, 2009: [[I'm taking this about as well as you'd expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)

:Teresa's response to Patrick's emotional state after been called on his comments. Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.

January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]

:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ. With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the "anti-racist" side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with "Is this what you wanted?"

January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]

:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers. Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.

== Links and external references ==

*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong's list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail '09]

== Dramatis personae ==

* [[Avalon's Willow]] <ref>[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]</ref> / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon]
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]<ref>[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]</ref> ([[matociquala]]<ref>[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]</ref> on LJ), a science fiction writer
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ<ref>[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ</ref>), a science fiction writer<ref>[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]</ref>
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]<ref>[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]</ref>, a science fiction & fantasy writer
* [[chopchica]] <ref>[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[ciderpress]] <ref>[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[coffeeandink]] <ref>[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[deepad]] aka "Deepa D."<ref>[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]<ref>[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]</ref>)
* [[delux_vivens]] <ref>[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as [[darkerblogistan]]<ref>[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]</ref> and [[igorsanchez]]<ref>[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]</ref>; unmasked by kynn<ref>[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]</ref>)
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher's adviser.
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]<ref>[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]</ref><ref>[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]<ref>[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]</ref>), a science fiction writer
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]<ref>[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]</ref>), a science fiction writer
* [[mac_stone]]<ref>[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]</ref> (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]<ref>[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]</ref> above)
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]<ref>[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]</ref>)
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]<ref>[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]</ref>, a science fiction writer
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]<ref>[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]</ref><ref>[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]</ref><ref>[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]</ref>)
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]<ref>[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ</ref>), a science fiction editor & [[BoingBoing]]'s comment section moderator
* [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]<ref>[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]</ref><ref>[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[oyceter]] <ref>[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[rydra_wong]] <ref>[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]</ref>,: compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([[willshetterly]]<ref>[http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ</ref>), a science fiction writer
* [[sparkymonster]] <ref>[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[spiralsheep]] <ref>[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[vito_excalibur]] <ref>[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[yeloson]] <ref>[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]</ref>
* [[yonmei]] <ref>[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei's posts at Feminist SF - the blog]</ref>
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]<ref>[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]</ref><ref>[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]</ref>

== Terminology ==
* [[orcing]] or orking
* [[white women's tears]]
* [[privilege]]
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media
* [[fail]]
* [[trolling]]
* [[blog-whoring]]
* [[pseudonyms]]

== See Also ==
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]
* [[cultural appropriation]]

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