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		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Pseudonyms&amp;diff=33235</id>
		<title>Talk:Pseudonyms</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Pseudonyms&amp;diff=33235"/>
		<updated>2009-06-01T14:07:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: I added the External links section. I&amp;#039;d forgotten to log in. --~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I added the External links section. I&#039;d forgotten to log in. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 14:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User:Pleasantville&amp;diff=33216</id>
		<title>User:Pleasantville</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User:Pleasantville&amp;diff=33216"/>
		<updated>2009-05-29T14:59:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: http://blog.fanhistory.com/?p=646&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pleasantville&#039;&#039;&#039; aka [[Kathryn Cramer]] lives in Pleasantville, New York. She is the only one who looks at the Feminist SF Wiki.[http://blog.fanhistory.com/?p=646]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Annalee_Newitz&amp;diff=33171</id>
		<title>Annalee Newitz</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Annalee_Newitz&amp;diff=33171"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T19:56:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Works */ Google books link&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Annalee Newitz writes nonfiction, fiction, and criticism, and is an editor. She writes for Wired, Popular Science, New Scientist, The Believer, Salon, and many other magazines.  She has a syndicated column, &amp;quot;Techsploitation&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Works==&lt;br /&gt;
* Co-editor, &#039;&#039;[[She&#039;s Such a Geek|She&#039;s Such a Geek: Women Write About Science, Technology, and Other Nerdy Stuff]]&#039;&#039;, Seal Press. 2007 (with [[Charlie Anders]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Pretend We&#039;re Dead: Capitalist Monsters in American Pop Culture&#039;&#039;, Duke University Press. 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;The Bad Subjects Anthology&#039;&#039;, New York University Press. 1998.&lt;br /&gt;
* Co-editor, &#039;&#039;White Trash: Race and Class in America&#039;&#039;, Routledge Press. 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* Techsploitation column, http://www.techsploitation.com/&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Murdering Mothers&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;[[&amp;quot;Bad&amp;quot; Mothers: The Politics of Blame in Twentieth-Century America]]&#039;&#039;, ed. [[Molly Ladd-Taylor]] and [[Lauri Umansky]], New York University Press, 1998[http://books.google.com/books?id=JXAvPCLwFJIC&amp;amp;pg=PA145&amp;amp;lpg=PA145&amp;amp;dq=mothers+racism&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=d5BWpE9Oh6&amp;amp;sig=1Hun1tRN_3hvVZYPFOOOVUb8rvE&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=FmAUSvr6C4yI8gT-_ImHBA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=5#PPP1,M1].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth missing]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Journalists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critics]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Newitz, Annalee}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33170</id>
		<title>Kathleen Ann Goonan</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33170"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T19:28:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Short fiction */ fixed broken link&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kathleen Ann Goonan&#039;&#039;&#039; is an award-winning SF novelist. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[In War Times]]&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[The Bones of Time]]&#039;&#039; (1996)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Nanotech Quartet&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Queen City Jazz]]&#039;&#039; (1994)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Mississippi Blues]]&#039;&#039; (1997)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Cresent City Rhapsody]]&#039;&#039; (2000)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Light Music]]&#039;&#039; (2002)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Short fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Memory Dog,&amp;quot; [[Asimov&#039;s]], 2008 (reprinted in &#039;&#039;Year&#039;s Best SF 14&#039;&#039;, ed. [[David G. Hartwell]] &amp;amp; [[Kathryn Cramer]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://goonan.com/ Goonan.com]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.goonan.com/wordpress/ Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Ann_Goonan wikipedia entry on KAG]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Goonan, Kathleen Ann}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth unknown]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33169</id>
		<title>Kathleen Ann Goonan</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33169"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T19:27:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Short fiction */ wikify&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kathleen Ann Goonan&#039;&#039;&#039; is an award-winning SF novelist. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[In War Times]]&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[The Bones of Time]]&#039;&#039; (1996)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Nanotech Quartet&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Queen City Jazz]]&#039;&#039; (1994)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Mississippi Blues]]&#039;&#039; (1997)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Cresent City Rhapsody]]&#039;&#039; (2000)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Light Music]]&#039;&#039; (2002)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Short fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Memory Dog,&amp;quot; [[Asimov&#039;s]], 2008 (reprinted in &#039;&#039;Year&#039;s Best SF 14&#039;&#039;, ed. [[David G. Hartwel]]l &amp;amp; [[Kathryn Cramer]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://goonan.com/ Goonan.com]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.goonan.com/wordpress/ Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Ann_Goonan wikipedia entry on KAG]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Goonan, Kathleen Ann}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth unknown]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33168</id>
		<title>Kathleen Ann Goonan</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33168"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T19:26:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Short fiction */ ital&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kathleen Ann Goonan&#039;&#039;&#039; is an award-winning SF novelist. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[In War Times]]&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[The Bones of Time]]&#039;&#039; (1996)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Nanotech Quartet&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Queen City Jazz]]&#039;&#039; (1994)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Mississippi Blues]]&#039;&#039; (1997)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Cresent City Rhapsody]]&#039;&#039; (2000)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Light Music]]&#039;&#039; (2002)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Short fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Memory Dog,&amp;quot; [[Asimov&#039;s]], 2008 (reprinted in [[Year&#039;s Best SF 14]], ed. David G. Hartwell &amp;amp; [[Kathryn Cramer]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://goonan.com/ Goonan.com]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.goonan.com/wordpress/ Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Ann_Goonan wikipedia entry on KAG]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Goonan, Kathleen Ann}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth unknown]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33167</id>
		<title>Kathleen Ann Goonan</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Kathleen_Ann_Goonan&amp;diff=33167"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T19:26:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: added a short fiction section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kathleen Ann Goonan&#039;&#039;&#039; is an award-winning SF novelist. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[In War Times]]&#039;&#039; (2007)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[The Bones of Time]]&#039;&#039; (1996)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Nanotech Quartet&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Queen City Jazz]]&#039;&#039; (1994)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Mississippi Blues]]&#039;&#039; (1997)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Cresent City Rhapsody]]&#039;&#039; (2000)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Light Music]]&#039;&#039; (2002)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Short fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Memory Dog,&amp;quot; [[Asimov&#039;s]], 2008 (reprinted in Year&#039;s Best SF 14, ed. David G. Hartwell &amp;amp; [[Kathryn Cramer]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://goonan.com/ Goonan.com]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.goonan.com/wordpress/ Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Ann_Goonan wikipedia entry on KAG]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Goonan, Kathleen Ann}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth unknown]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Carolyn_Ives_Gilman&amp;diff=33166</id>
		<title>Carolyn Ives Gilman</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Carolyn_Ives_Gilman&amp;diff=33166"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T19:23:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: added a short fiction section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Writer, best known for her novel &#039;&#039;[[Halfway Human]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Short fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
• &amp;quot;Arkfall&amp;quot;, [[F&amp;amp;SF]], 2008 (reprinted in &#039;&#039;Year&#039;s Best SF 14&#039;&#039;, ed. [[David G. Hartwell]] &amp;amp; [[Kathryn Cramer]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Gilman, Carolyn Ives}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth missing]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Annalee_Newitz&amp;diff=33165</id>
		<title>Annalee Newitz</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Annalee_Newitz&amp;diff=33165"/>
		<updated>2009-05-20T18:04:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Works */ * &amp;quot;Murdering Mothers&amp;quot; in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Bad&amp;quot; Mothers: The Politics of Blame in Twentieth-Century America&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, ed. Molly Ladd-Taylor and Lauri Umansky, New York University Press, 1998.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Annalee Newitz writes nonfiction, fiction, and criticism, and is an editor. She writes for Wired, Popular Science, New Scientist, The Believer, Salon, and many other magazines.  She has a syndicated column, &amp;quot;Techsploitation&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Works==&lt;br /&gt;
* Co-editor, &#039;&#039;[[She&#039;s Such a Geek|She&#039;s Such a Geek: Women Write About Science, Technology, and Other Nerdy Stuff]]&#039;&#039;, Seal Press. 2007 (with [[Charlie Anders]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Pretend We&#039;re Dead: Capitalist Monsters in American Pop Culture&#039;&#039;, Duke University Press. 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;The Bad Subjects Anthology&#039;&#039;, New York University Press. 1998.&lt;br /&gt;
* Co-editor, &#039;&#039;White Trash: Race and Class in America&#039;&#039;, Routledge Press. 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* Techsploitation column, http://www.techsploitation.com/&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Murdering Mothers&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;[[&amp;quot;Bad&amp;quot; Mothers: The Politics of Blame in Twentieth-Century America]]&#039;&#039;, ed. [[Molly Ladd-Taylor]] and [[Lauri Umansky]], New York University Press, 1998.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth missing]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Journalists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critics]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Newitz, Annalee}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Secret_Feminist_Cabal&amp;diff=33136</id>
		<title>Secret Feminist Cabal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Secret_Feminist_Cabal&amp;diff=33136"/>
		<updated>2009-05-14T22:09:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: rm non-working link&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Secret Feminist Cabal is, primarily, a secret.  It is a cabal of feminists who secretly run and control many things. Look for Secret Feminist Caballeras in a theater near you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:Groups]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:Feminist conspirators]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Racism_and_Science_Fiction_/_Samuel_Delany_(1999_essay)&amp;diff=33076</id>
		<title>Racism and Science Fiction / Samuel Delany (1999 essay)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Racism_and_Science_Fiction_/_Samuel_Delany_(1999_essay)&amp;diff=33076"/>
		<updated>2009-04-20T23:59:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: added link to full text&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[http://www.nyrsf.com/racism-and-science-fiction-.html Racism and Science Fiction]&#039;&#039;&#039; is a 1999 essay by [[Samuel R. Delany]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Publications==&lt;br /&gt;
* 1998: Issue 120, [[The New York Review of Science Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
* 2000: &#039;&#039;[[Dark Matter]]&#039;&#039; ed. by [[Sheree Thomas]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Essays]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1999 publications]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Samuel_R._Delany&amp;diff=33075</id>
		<title>Samuel R. Delany</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Samuel_R._Delany&amp;diff=33075"/>
		<updated>2009-04-20T23:56:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Critical works */ added link to text&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Samuel Ray &amp;quot;Chip&amp;quot; Delany, Jr.&#039;&#039;&#039; (born April 1, [[1942]], [[New York City]]) is an award-winning American [[science fiction]] author. He has written works that have garnered substantial critical acclaim, including the novels &#039;&#039;[[Nova (novel)|Nova]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;The Einstein Intersection&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Hogg (novel)|Hogg]]&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[Dhalgren]]&#039;&#039;. He is a professor of Comparative Literature and Creative Writing at Temple University, and is also known in the [[academic]] world as a [[literary critic]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Biography===&lt;br /&gt;
Delany was born and raised in Harlem and attended the Dalton School and Bronx High School of Science. Delany and the poet [[Marilyn Hacker]], who met in high school, were married for several years and have a daughter. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delany was a published science fiction author by the age of 20, and published six well-regarded science fiction novels between 1962 and 1968, as well as several prize-winning short stories (collected in &#039;&#039;Driftglass&#039;&#039;). &#039;&#039;Dhalgren&#039;&#039; was published in [[1974|1974]]. His main literary project through the late 1970s and 1980s was the Neveryon series. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delany has published several [[autobiographical]]/semi-autobiographical accounts of his life as a black and [[gay]] writer, including his [[Hugo Award]] winning autobiography, &#039;&#039;[[The Motion of Light in Water]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent years, Delany has been teaching English, Comparative Literature, and writing. Delany spent 11 years teaching at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, a year and a half at the University at Buffalo, The State University of New York|University at Buffalo, and moved to the English Department of Temple University in [[2001]]. He has also published several books of criticism, interviews, and other essays.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Themes===&lt;br /&gt;
Most of his works deal more explicitly with sexual themes than is common. &#039;&#039;[[Dhalgren]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand]]&#039;&#039; include several sexually explicit passages, and several of his books such as &#039;&#039;[[Equinox (book)|Equinox]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[The Mad Man]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Hogg (novel)|Hogg]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Phallos (novel)|Phallos]]&#039;&#039; could even be considered [[pornography]], a term that Delany himself has endorsed before. He has published several books of literary criticism, with an emphasis on issues in [[science fiction]] and other [[paraliterature|paraliterary]] [[genre]]s, [[comparative literature]], and [[queer studies]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Selected bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
===Fiction===&lt;br /&gt;
====Novels====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Jewels of Aptor]]&#039;&#039; (1962)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Captives of the Flame]]&#039;&#039; (1963) - also published as &#039;&#039;Out of the Dead City&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Towers of Toron]]&#039;&#039; (1964)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[City of a Thousand Suns]]&#039;&#039; (1965)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Ballad of Beta-2]]&#039;&#039; (1965)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Empire Star]]&#039;&#039; (novella) (1966)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Babel-17]]&#039;&#039; (1966, [[Nebula Award]])&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Einstein Intersection]]&#039;&#039; (1967, [[Nebula Award]])&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Nova (novel)|Nova]]&#039;&#039; (1968), ISBN 0553100319&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;The Tides of Lust&#039;&#039; (1973) (republished as &#039;&#039;Equinox&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Dhalgren]]&#039;&#039; (1974), ISBN 0553148613&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Triton (novel)]]&#039;&#039; (1976), ISBN 0553126806 - also published as &#039;&#039;Trouble on Triton&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039; (1978)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand]]&#039;&#039; (1984), ISBN 0553050532&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Mad Man]]&#039;&#039; (1994), ISBN 1563331934&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Hogg (novel)|Hogg]]&#039;&#039; (1995), ISBN 0932511910&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Phallos (novella)]]&#039;&#039; (2004), ISBN 0917453417&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Return to Nevèrÿon series====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Tales of Nevèrÿon]]&#039;&#039; (short stories) (1979), ISBN 0553123335&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Neveryóna|Neveryóna, or the Tale of Signs and Cities]]&#039;&#039; (novel) (1983), ISBN 055301434X&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Flight from Nevèrÿon]]&#039;&#039; (novellas) (1985), ISBN 0553248561&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Bridge of Lost Desire]]&#039;&#039; (novellas) (1987), ISBN 0877959315&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Short story collections====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Driftglass&#039;&#039; (1971)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Distant Stars&#039;&#039; (1981), ISBN 055301336X&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Distant Suns&#039;&#039; (1981)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;The Complete Newbula Award-Winning fiction&#039;&#039; (1986)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Draftglass / Starshards&#039;&#039; (1993)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Atlantis: Three Tales&#039;&#039; (1995), ISBN 0819552836&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Aye, and Gomorrah]]&#039;&#039; (2003), ISBN 0375706712&lt;br /&gt;
(&#039;&#039;[[Driftglass]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Distant Stars&#039;&#039; include the [[Hugo Award|Hugo]] and [[Nebula Award]]-winning [[&amp;quot;Time Considered as a Helix of Semi-Precious Stones.&amp;quot;]] &#039;&#039;Aye, and Gomorrah&#039;&#039; is a compilation of all of Delany&#039;s short fiction, excepting the Nevèrÿon tales.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Short stories====&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[Aye, and Gomorrah ...]]&amp;quot; (1967)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[Time Considered as a Helix of Semi-Precious Stones]]&amp;quot; (1968)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[They Fly at Cirron]]&amp;quot; (1971)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[High Weir]]&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;[[The Norton Book of Science Fiction]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Nonfiction===&lt;br /&gt;
====Critical works====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Jewel-hinged Jaw]]: Notes on the Language of Science Fiction&#039;&#039; (1977)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The American Shore]]&#039;&#039; (1978)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Starboard Wine]]: More Notes on the Language of Science Fiction&#039;&#039; (1984)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Straits of Messina]]&#039;&#039; (1989), ISBN 0934933049&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Comics&#039;&#039; (1994)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Silent Interviews]]&#039;&#039; (1995), ISBN 0819562807&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Longer Views]]&#039;&#039; (1996), ISBN 0819562939&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[Shorter Views]]&#039;&#039; (1999), ISBN 0819563692&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[About Writing (Delany)|About Writing]]&#039;&#039; (2005), ISBN 0819567167&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Of Sex, Objects, Sign, Systems, Sales, SF, and Other Things&amp;quot; (as K. Leslie Steiner)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Some Remarks Toward a Reading of &#039;&#039;Dhalgren&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (as K. Leslie Steiner)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Reading at Work, and Other Activities Frowned on by Authority: A Reading of Donna Haraway&#039;s &#039;Manifesto for Cyborgs: Science, Technology, and Socialist Feminism in the 1980s&#039;&amp;quot; (1996)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[A Tribute to Judith Merril]]&amp;quot; (1997)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[Racism and Science Fiction]]&amp;quot;[http://www.nyrsf.com/racism-and-science-fiction-.html] ([[NYRSF]], 1998)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Memoirs and letters====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Heavenly Breakfast&#039;&#039; (1979), ISBN 0553127969&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;[[The Motion of Light in Water]]&#039;&#039; (1988, a memoir of his experiences as a young gay science fiction writer; winner of the [[Hugo Award]]), ISBN 0877959471&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Times Square Red, Times Square Blue&#039;&#039; (1999, a discussion of changes in social and sexual interaction in New York&#039;s [[Times Square]]), ISBN 0814719198&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Bread &amp;amp; Wine: An Erotic Tale of New York&#039;&#039; (1999, an [[autobiographical comics|autobiographical comic]] drawn by Mia Wolff with an introduction by [[Alan Moore]]), ISBN 1890451029&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;1984&#039;&#039; (2000), ISBN 0966599810&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Interviews====&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;An Interview with Samuel R. Delany&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;Callaloo&#039;&#039;, v.14, n.2 (1991)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other facts==&lt;br /&gt;
*Delany&#039;s name is one of the most misspelt in science fiction, with over 60 different spellings in reviews. His publisher Doubleday even misspelt his name on the title page of his book &#039;&#039;Driftglass&#039;&#039; as did the organizers of the 16th [[Balticon]] where Delany was guest of honour. Delany is [[dyslexia|dyslexic]].&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Library of Congress]] incorrectly recorded his nationality as English.&lt;br /&gt;
*Delany&#039;s aunts were [[Sadie and Bessie Delany]], known as the &#039;&#039;Delany sisters&#039;&#039;. They both lived to be over 100 years old, and published &#039;&#039;Having Our Say: The Delany Sisters&#039; First 100 Years&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Among Delany&#039;s more unusual credits is that he wrote two issues of the [[comic book]] &#039;&#039;[[Wonder Woman]]&#039;&#039; in 1972, during a controversial period in the publication&#039;s history when the lead character abandoned her superpowers and became a secret agent. Delany scripted issues #202 and 203 of the series.&lt;br /&gt;
*Delany&#039;s story &#039;&#039;[[Aye, and Gomorrah]]&#039;&#039; was included in [[Harlan Ellison]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Dangerous Visions]]&#039;&#039;. Ellison gave a short introduction that ironically pointed out how Delany was one of the last straight science fiction authors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*Robert S. Bravard; Michael W. Peplow, &#039;&#039;&#039;Through a Glass Darkly: Bibliographing Samuel R. Delany&#039;&#039;&#039; in Black American Literature Forum, Vol. 18, No. 2.&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.math.buffalo.edu/~sww/delany/delany_samuel_r0.html Samuel L. Delany as a Semi-Precious Stone]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.infinitematrix.net/faq/essays/duchamp.html &amp;quot;A Delany Love Fest&amp;quot;] by [[L. Timmel Duchamp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*http://www.pcc.com/~jay/delany/&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.starshards.org/bibliography/ Delany bibliography]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.pseudopodium.org/repress/KLeslieSteiner-SamuelRDelany.html Delany biography] written by Delany under his nom de plume K. Leslie Steiner&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sfsite.com/02b/dh122.htm SF Site review of novel]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.yetanotherbookreview.com/dhalgren.htm Yet Another Book Review review of novel]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.pcc.com/staff/jay/delany/dhalgren.html An interpretation of the novel]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue216/classic.html Classic Sci-Fi&#039;s review of novel]&lt;br /&gt;
*{{isfdb name|id=Samuel_R._Delany|name=Samuel R. Delany}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Copyright Notice==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_R._Delany English Wikipedia entry]&lt;br /&gt;
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This entry originated at the http://en.wikipedia.org site.&lt;br /&gt;
Please retain this reference if this article is copied elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Delany, Samuel R.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Nebula Award winning authors]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Racism_and_Science_Fiction_/_Samuel_Delany_(1999_essay)&amp;diff=33074</id>
		<title>Racism and Science Fiction / Samuel Delany (1999 essay)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Racism_and_Science_Fiction_/_Samuel_Delany_(1999_essay)&amp;diff=33074"/>
		<updated>2009-04-20T23:55:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Publications */ corrected pub date&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Racism and Science Fiction&#039;&#039;&#039; is a 1999 essay by [[Samuel R. Delany]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Publications==&lt;br /&gt;
* 1998: Issue 120, [[The New York Review of Science Fiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
* 2000: &#039;&#039;[[Dark Matter]]&#039;&#039; ed. by [[Sheree Thomas]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Essays]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:1999 publications]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Yoon_Ha_Lee&amp;diff=33010</id>
		<title>Yoon Ha Lee</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Yoon_Ha_Lee&amp;diff=33010"/>
		<updated>2009-04-01T13:59:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Short stories */ Eating Hearts reprinted&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{WOC}}&#039;&#039;&#039;[http://www.yoonhalee.com/ Yoon Ha Lee]&#039;&#039;&#039; (http://yhlee.livejournal.com/ LJ) is a SF (fantasy &amp;amp; science fiction) writer; interactive fiction writer and gamer; reviewer of fiction and games; and constructor of [[conlangs]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Works ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Short stories ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Hundredth Question&amp;quot; ([[1999]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Echoes Down an Endless Hall&amp;quot; ([[2000]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Alas, Lirette&amp;quot; ([[2001]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[Counting the Shapes]]&amp;quot; ([[2001]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[The Black Abacus]]&amp;quot; ([[2002]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[Eating Hearts]]&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]]; reprinted in &#039;&#039;Year&#039;s Best Fantasy 6&#039;&#039;, ed. [[David G. Hartwell]] &amp;amp; [[Kathryn Cramer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Third Song&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Lenox Avenue]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Moon, Paper, Scissors&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Lady Churchill&#039;s Rosebud Wristlet]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Sun&#039;s Kiss&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Ideomancer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Words Written in Fire&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Shadows of Saturn]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Hopscotch&amp;quot; ([[2006]], &#039;&#039;[[Twenty Epics]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;So That Her High-Born Kinsmen Came&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Sybil&#039;s Garage]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Nine Tails, Hundred Hearts&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Fantasy Magazine]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Unstringing the Bow&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Ideomancer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Behind the Mirror&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Coyote Wild]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Screamers&amp;quot; ([[2007]], [[Ideomancer]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Shadow Postulates&amp;quot; ([[2007]], [[Helix]]) http://www.yoonhalee.com/shadowpostulates.phtml&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Inferno&amp;quot; ([[2007]], [[Behind the Wainscot]]) http://farragoblog.livejournal.com/29689.html#cutid3&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Notes on the Necromantic Symphony&amp;quot; ([[2007]], [[Farrago&#039;s Wainscot]]) http://www.farragoswainscot.com/2007/necromantic.html&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Dragon Logic&amp;quot; ([[2007]], &#039;&#039;[[Japanese Dreams]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Blue Ink&amp;quot; ([[2008]], [[Clarkesworld]]) http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/lee_08_08/&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Architectural Constraints&amp;quot; ([[2008]], [[Beneath Ceaseless Skies]]) http://www.beneath-ceaseless-skies.com/story.php?s=3&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Unstrung Zither&amp;quot; ([[2009]], [[F&amp;amp;SF]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Poetry ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[http://www.strangehorizons.com/2003/20030707/when_soft.shtml When Soft the Water Fell]&amp;quot; ([[2003]], [[Strange Horizons]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Red Witch of Colchis&amp;quot; ([[2004]], [[Star*Line]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[http://www.strangehorizons.com/2005/20050314/equinox-p.shtml Equinox]&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Strange Horizons]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[http://www.abyssandapex.com/200504-kingdom.html The Kingdom of Dust and Steel]&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Abyss and Apex]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[http://www.abyssandapex.com/200510-dear-yourself.html Dear Yourself]&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Abyss and Apex]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The Damsel&#039;s Unicorn&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Mythic Delirium]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Calendars&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Magazine of Speculative Poetry]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Subtractive Speech&amp;quot; ([[2005]], [[Magazine of Speculative Poetry]])&lt;br /&gt;
* untitled haijur ([[2005]], [[Bottle Rockets]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Little Match Girl&amp;quot; ([[2005]], &#039;&#039;[[Jabberwocky 1]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[http://www.strangehorizons.com/2006/20060313/lee-p.shtml Stella Rosetta]] ([[2006]], [[Strange Horizons]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[http://ravenelectrick.com/ravenpoetrick/unicornflesh2.html Unicorn Flesh] ([[2006]], [[Raven Poetrick]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Lacunae&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Mythic Delirium]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Haunted&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Dreams and Nightmares]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Family Values in Hameln&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Goblin Fruit]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Void-Egg Verses&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Magazine of Speculative Poetry]]) reprinted in &#039;&#039;[[The 2006 Rhysling Anthology]]&#039;&#039;, ed. [[Drew Morse]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Lizard Place&amp;quot; ([[2006]], [[Magazine of Speculative Poetry]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ouroboros Time&amp;quot; ([[2006]]), &#039;&#039;[[Jabberwocky 2]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Interactive fiction: ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.yoonhalee.com/moonlit.phtml The Moonlit Tower]  2002 [[Xyzzy Awards]] winner for Best Writing.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ghostroad&lt;br /&gt;
* Swanglass&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://yhlee.livejournal.com/&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.yoonhalee.com/ Pegusus Nest] Yoon Ha Lee&#039;s website&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Lee, Yoon Ha}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Game designers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critics]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Hugo_Award&amp;diff=32922</id>
		<title>Hugo Award</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Hugo_Award&amp;diff=32922"/>
		<updated>2009-03-20T12:55:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: * 2009: Of the 21 authors listed in the fiction categories, four are women (only 19%).&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;Hugo Award&#039;&#039;&#039;, aka The Science Fiction Achievement Award, is an award given by the World Science Fiction Society (WSFS) based on a popular vote of the membership of the WSFS and delivered at [[WorldCon]]. The award is named after Hugo Gernsback.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It was first awarded in 1953, although retrospective awards for 1951 and 1946 were awarded. As with most SF and literary awards, relatively few women have been nominated or won awards. (See [[Hugo Award Winners]].)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Historical milestones: &lt;br /&gt;
* 1953: First Hugo Award. &lt;br /&gt;
* 1960: First Hugo Award given to a woman in any category. Recognized [[Elinor Busby]], jointly with F.M. Busy, Burnett Toskey, and Wally Weber, editors, for fanzine Cry of the Nameless: &lt;br /&gt;
* 1962: First Hugo Award given to a woman for individual achievemen. Recognized [[Cele Goldsmith Lalli|Cele Goldsmith]], &amp;quot;Special Award&amp;quot;, for editing &#039;&#039;Amazing&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Fantastic&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* 1968: First Hugo Award given to a woman for her writing. Recognized [[Anne McCaffrey]] for novella &amp;quot;[[Weyr Search]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* 2007: 1 of 20 nominations in the four major writing categories recognized a woman writer. (See [[2006 Hugo vacuum]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* 2009: Of the 21 authors listed in the fiction categories, four are women (only 19%).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Participation==&lt;br /&gt;
* It&#039;s a WorldCon membership project, so if you pay the Worldcon membership dues ($40-$50), you can participate. &lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.emcit.com/hugo_section.php?faq.htm How to participate in the Hugo nomination process]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Women eligible for 2008 SF Awards]] - A list of women writers &amp;amp; works by women writers eligible for awards to be made in 2008 (usually for 2007 works), including the Hugo.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* See also [[Harlan Ellison Breast Grab Incident]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Awards named after men]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:SF awards]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32569</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32569"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T19:10:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: I did not threaten. Rather I ask for you to do something.--Pleasantville 19:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue. Are you perhaps propagating further [[Character assassination|defamation of my character]]? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]], I suggest you make links to particular edits in this Wiki if you wish to claim I have &amp;quot;damaged&amp;quot; this Wiki. Otherwise, please retract your statement and apologize, since such a claim is defamatory. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Hi Kathryn. Actually, wiki admins and sys ops are watching your contributions to the wiki. We keep an eye on recent changes in general, and we &amp;quot;watch&amp;quot; pages we think might be controversial. Ide Cyan as one of the wiki&#039;s more active users has, in my view, usefully pointed out possible difficulty. Are you threatening or preparing to sue people for libel or defamation? That is certainly interesting.  If so, you may want to pause and talk to a lawyer about your course of action, before further participating in this wiki.  We would like for you not to threaten people with legal actions on the wiki. Please cool it down. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are you unconcerned about defamation? The links and the claim were defamatory. Please remove them. You are an admin. I did not threaten. Rather I ask for you to do something.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32568</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32568"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T19:09:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: Are you unconcerned about defamation? The links and the claim were defamatory. Please remove them. --~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue. Are you perhaps propagating further [[Character assassination|defamation of my character]]? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]], I suggest you make links to particular edits in this Wiki if you wish to claim I have &amp;quot;damaged&amp;quot; this Wiki. Otherwise, please retract your statement and apologize, since such a claim is defamatory. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Hi Kathryn. Actually, wiki admins and sys ops are watching your contributions to the wiki. We keep an eye on recent changes in general, and we &amp;quot;watch&amp;quot; pages we think might be controversial. Ide Cyan as one of the wiki&#039;s more active users has, in my view, usefully pointed out possible difficulty. Are you threatening or preparing to sue people for libel or defamation? That is certainly interesting.  If so, you may want to pause and talk to a lawyer about your course of action, before further participating in this wiki.  We would like for you not to threaten people with legal actions on the wiki. Please cool it down. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are you unconcerned about defamation? The links and the claim were defamatory. Please remove them. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32559</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32559"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T16:52:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: sp&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue. Are you perhaps propagating further [[Character assassination|defamation of my character]]? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]], I suggest you make links to particular edits in this Wiki if you wish to claim I have &amp;quot;damaged&amp;quot; this Wiki. Otherwise, please retract your statement and apologize, since such a claim is defamatory. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32558</id>
		<title>User talk:Liz Henry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32558"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T16:07:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* User:Ide Cyan &amp;amp; defamation */ gender&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== blocking users - new discovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hey - embarrassingly late, i discovered something about the blocking users process, or rather, i paid attention to the screen ... i&#039;ve started blocking spammers just from anonymous edits, and not from account creation.  because if they&#039;re spoofing an ip address or using one and get booted off it, then the legitimate users could still create accounts and use them. --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 11:06, 11 January 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[User:Ide Cyan]] &amp;amp; defamation==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ide Cyan]] about posting and/or linking to defamatory material about living persons. I am concerned about the post [[User:Ide Cyan]] made to [[Talk:Kathryn Cramer]] and have responded there. The claims he/she links to are defamatory and I have publicly disputed them and also filed complaints about with writer&#039;s ISP.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 16:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32557</id>
		<title>User talk:Liz Henry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32557"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T16:06:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* User:Ide Cyan &amp;amp; defamation */ sp&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== blocking users - new discovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hey - embarrassingly late, i discovered something about the blocking users process, or rather, i paid attention to the screen ... i&#039;ve started blocking spammers just from anonymous edits, and not from account creation.  because if they&#039;re spoofing an ip address or using one and get booted off it, then the legitimate users could still create accounts and use them. --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 11:06, 11 January 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[User:Ide Cyan]] &amp;amp; defamation==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ide Cyan]] about posting and/or linking to defamatory material about living persons. I am concerned about the post [[User:Ide Cyan]] made to [[Talk:Kathryn Cramer]] and have responded there. The claims he links to are defamatory and I have publicly disputed them and also filed complaints about with writer&#039;s ISP.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 16:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32556</id>
		<title>User talk:Liz Henry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32556"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T16:06:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: User:Ide Cyan &amp;amp; defamation&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== blocking users - new discovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hey - embarrassingly late, i discovered something about the blocking users process, or rather, i paid attention to the screen ... i&#039;ve started blocking spammers just from anonymous edits, and not from account creation.  because if they&#039;re spoofing an ip address or using one and get booted off it, then the legitimate users could still create accounts and use them. --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 11:06, 11 January 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[User:Ide Cyan]] &amp;amp; defamation==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ide Cyan]] about posting and/or linking to defamatory material about living persons. I am concerned about the post [[User:Ide Cyan]] may to [[Talk:Kathryn Cramer]] and have responded there. The claims he links to are defamatory and I have publicly disputed them and also filed complaints about with writer&#039;s ISP.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 16:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32555</id>
		<title>User talk:Liz Henry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Liz_Henry&amp;diff=32555"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T16:05:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: --User:Ide Cyan--&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== blocking users - new discovery ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hey - embarrassingly late, i discovered something about the blocking users process, or rather, i paid attention to the screen ... i&#039;ve started blocking spammers just from anonymous edits, and not from account creation.  because if they&#039;re spoofing an ip address or using one and get booted off it, then the legitimate users could still create accounts and use them. --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 11:06, 11 January 2007 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Ide Cyan]] &amp;amp; defamation-- &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would appreciate it if you could warn [[User:Ide Cyan]] about posting and/or linking to defamatory material about living persons. I am concerned about the post [[User:Ide Cyan]] may to [[Talk:Kathryn Cramer]] and have responded there. The claims he links to are defamatory and I have publicly disputed them and also filed complaints about with writer&#039;s ISP.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 16:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32554</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32554"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T15:18:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: added link:  defamation of my character&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue. Are you perhaps propagating further [[Character assassination|defamation of my character]]? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]], I suggest you make likes to particular edits in this Wiki if you wish to claim I have &amp;quot;damaged&amp;quot; this Wiki. Otherwise, please retract your statement and apologize, since such a claim is defamatory. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32553</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32553"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T15:15:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: :Ide Cyan, I suggest you make likes to particular edits in this Wiki if you wish to claim I have &amp;quot;damaged&amp;quot; this Wiki. Otherwise, please retract your statement and apologize. --[[User&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue. Are you perhaps propagating further defamation of my character? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]], I suggest you make likes to particular edits in this Wiki if you wish to claim I have &amp;quot;damaged&amp;quot; this Wiki. Otherwise, please retract your statement and apologize, since such a claim is defamatory. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32552</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32552"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T15:09:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: Are you perhaps propagating further defamation of my character?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue. Are you perhaps propagating further defamation of my character? --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32551</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32551"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T15:06:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: :What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:What damage are you speaking of? The party in question has libeled me on this point and I have filed a complaint with her ISP. Her claims of &amp;quot;attacks&amp;quot; are untrue.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32550</id>
		<title>Talk:Kathryn Cramer</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:Kathryn_Cramer&amp;diff=32550"/>
		<updated>2009-03-05T15:04:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: What damage are you speaking of?--~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;In light of Kathryn Cramer&#039;s [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/902704.html?mode=reply attacks] on [[coffeeandink]] I would recommend that her contributions (she is [[User:Pleasantville]]) be watched carefully to prevent or remediate further damage. ([http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/903696.html More info] -- and the issue is ongoing.) --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 08:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What damage are you speaking of?--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 15:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Micole_Iris_Sudberg&amp;diff=32483</id>
		<title>Micole Iris Sudberg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Micole_Iris_Sudberg&amp;diff=32483"/>
		<updated>2009-03-03T00:12:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: correction made that the request of Beth Meacham&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Micole Iris Sudberg&#039;&#039;&#039; is a blogger who has published several fantasy short stories. She was formerly an Assistant Editor at [[Tor Books]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tarakharper.com/k_factor.htm#writing TARA K. HARPER WRITER&#039;S WORKSHOP: Factors that Influence the Success of a Book]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who assisted [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] and worked with several consulting editors such as [[Terri Windling]], [[Delia Sherman]], and [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]]. She no longer works in publishing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Sudberg, Micole Iris}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth missing]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bloggers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:Editors]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Women_eligible_for_2009_SF_Awards&amp;diff=32451</id>
		<title>Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Women_eligible_for_2009_SF_Awards&amp;diff=32451"/>
		<updated>2009-02-28T23:28:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Women eligible for Campbell Best New Writer */ a bit late in the day, but have expanded the list by a lot&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This is a list of women eligible for SF awards to be given out in 2009 based on works published or participation in the field from January 1, 2008, to December 31, 2008.  Awards that follow this eligibility format include the Hugo, the Campbell, and the World Fantasy Award.  (The Nebulas have a rolling period of eligibility for nomination based on the specific date a work was published.)  We&#039;re listing these women as a form of [[award activism]]: to bring them greater attention, to share information about them for ourselves, and to help avoid problems like the [[2006 Hugo vacuum]]. See [[Eligibility and voting by award]] for a quick index of information about individual awards, and links to the individual award pages for more detail. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please include here &#039;&#039;any eligible woman&#039;&#039;, along with the information about her eligible work or activity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Related: [[Works by Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* See [[Eligibility and voting by award]]&lt;br /&gt;
* See [[Award activism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* See [[2006 Hugo vacuum]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Writing Awards==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Lifetime Achievement===&lt;br /&gt;
World Fantasy eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Women eligible for Campbell Best New Writer===&lt;br /&gt;
Authors who published their first work in 2007 or 2008&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Camille Alexa]]  (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ann Aguirre]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kelly Barnhill]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tracy Canfield]]  (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Erin Cashier]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Loretta Casteen]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah K Castle]]   (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Samantha Cope]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Aliette de Bodard]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Oz Drummond]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah L. Edwards]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ruthanna Emrys]]  (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Toiya Kristen Finley]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sara Genge]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lynne Hawkinson]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sonia Helbig]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Andrea Kail]]  (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Helen Keeble]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Alice Sola Kim]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Livia Llewellyn]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Katherine Maclaine]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Darja Malcolm-Clarke]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Misty Massey]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Caroline Lockwood Nelson]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Susan Parisi]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Laura Bradley Rede]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Felicity Shoulders]]  (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paula R Stiles]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sonya Taaffe]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Genevieve Valentine]]  (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Juliette Wade]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ysabeau S. Wilce]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Donna Glee Williams]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Doselle Young]] (first year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kim Zimring]] (second year of eligibility)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fan Writer===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([http://ktempest.livejournal.com Live Journal], [http://theangryblackwoman.wordpress.com The Angry Black Woman], [http://blogs.feministsf.net Feminist SF dot Net])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Claire Brialey]] (mostly in [[Banana Wings]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lila Garrott]] ([[http://rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com/ Live Journal]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Nepveu]] (mostly on [[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/ Live Journal])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[Making Light]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheryl Morgan]] ([http://sfawardswatch.com/ SF Awards Watch])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Abigail Nussbaum]] ([http://wrongquestions.blogspot.com Wrong Questions])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ulrika O&#039;Brian]] ([http://akirlu.livejournal.com/ Live Journal])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kate Yule]] ([http://www.spiritone.com/~dlevine/bento/ Bento], [http://kateyule.livejournal.com/ Live Journal])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Eligible Works===&lt;br /&gt;
For a list of works by women that were published in 2008, see [[Works by women eligible for 2009 SF Awards]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Awards For Editorial Excellence==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Editor, Long Form===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stef Bierwerth]] (Pan Macmillan / Tor UK)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ginjer Buchanan]] (Ace)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Claire Eddy]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jo Fletcher]] (Gollancz)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liz Gorinsky]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anne Groell]] (Bantam)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Beth Meacham]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharyn November]] (Firebird [Penguin/Puffin])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Melissa Singer]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Juliet Ulman]] (Bantam)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Toni Weisskopf]] (Baen)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jaime Levine]] (Warner Aspect)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Betsy Mitchell]] (Del Rey)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Editor, Short Form===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ellen Datlow]] (&#039;&#039;[[Year&#039;s Best Fantasy and Horror]]&#039;&#039;, edited with Link and Grant)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Susan Marie Groppi]] (&#039;&#039;[[Strange Horizons]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carol Hightshoe]] (&#039;&#039;The Lorelei Signal&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Sorcerous Signals]]) &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Deborah Layne]] (Wheatland Press anthologies and collections)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kelly Link]] (&#039;&#039;[[Lady Churchill&#039;s Rosebud Wristlet]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Year&#039;s Best Fantasy and Horror]]&#039;&#039; (both with Gavin Grant))&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shawna McCarthy]] (&#039;&#039;Realms of Fantasy&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Karen Meisner]] (&#039;&#039;[[Strange Horizons]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cat Rambo]] (&#039;&#039;[[Fantasy Magazine]]&#039;&#039;, edited with Sean Wallace)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ekaterina Sedia]] (&#039;&#039;Paper Cities&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ann Vandermeer]] (&#039;&#039;Weird Tales&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sheila Williams]] (&#039;&#039;Asimov&#039;s Science Fiction&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Semiprozine===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[Fantasy Magazine]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fanzine===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Eugie Foster]] ([[The Fix]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carol Hightsoe]] ([[The Lorelei Signal]]) http://www.loreleisignal.com&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carol Hightshoe]] ([[Sorcerous Signals]]) http://www.sorceroussignals.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Artist Awards==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Professional Artist===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo and World Fantasy eligible&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kinuko Y. Craft]] [http://www.kycraft.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kiriko Moth]] [http://kiriko-moth.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fan Artist===&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo eligible&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Freddie Baer]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sue Mason]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kiriko Moth]] [http://kiriko-moth.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Other Awards==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Special Award: Professional===&lt;br /&gt;
World Fantasy eligible (covers those involved in the genre and genre publishing at the professional level, including editors)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sheila Williams]] (&#039;&#039;Asimov&#039;s Science Fiction&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Deanna Hoak]] (copyediting)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ellen Datlow]] (&#039;&#039;[[Year&#039;s Best Fantasy and Horror]]&#039;&#039;, edited with Link and Grant)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kelly Link]] (&#039;&#039;[[Lady Churchill&#039;s Rosebud Wristlet]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Year&#039;s Best Fantasy and Horror]]&#039;&#039; (both with Gavin Grant))&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shawna McCarthy]] (&#039;&#039;Realms of Fantasy&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stef Bierwerth]] (Pan Macmillan / Tor UK)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ginjer Buchanan]] (Ace)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Claire Eddy]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jo Fletcher]] (Gollancz)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liz Gorinsky]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anne Groell]] (Bantam)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Beth Meacham]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sharyn November]] (Firebird [Penguin/Puffin])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Melissa Singer]] (Tor)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Juliet Ulman]] (Bantam)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Toni Weisskopf]] (Baen)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Special Award: Non-Professional===&lt;br /&gt;
World Fantasy eligible (covers those involved in the genre and genre publishing at the semi-professional level, including editors)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leslie Howle]] ([[Clarion West]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cat Rambo]] (&#039;&#039;[[Fantasy Magazine]]&#039;&#039;, edited with Sean Wallace)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Susan Marie Groppi]] (&#039;&#039;[[Strange Horizons]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Deborah Layne]] (Wheatland Press anthologies and collections)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Karen Meisner]] (&#039;&#039;[[Strange Horizons]]&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ann Vandermeer]] (&#039;&#039;Weird Tales&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carol Hightshoe]] (&#039;&#039;The Lorelei Signal&#039;&#039;) and &#039;&#039;[[Sorcerous Signals]]&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Andre Norton Award for Young Adult Science Fiction and Fantasy ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Link:  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Norton_Award]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Works]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Writers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Awards]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32008</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32008"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T20:24:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Internal Links for Blog Post Titles */ LJ ToS regarding copyright&lt;/p&gt;
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I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::The general rule of thumb for fair use is quoting 150 words. On my blog, I don&#039;t sweat this and on rare occasions when it becomes an issue I either remove the content, pay a fee for use, or both, but Wikis can  exist only because of the willingness to put things under a free license (in this case GNU Free Documentation License 1.2), so in general one should adhere to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use fair use guidelines]. ([http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos.bml LJ&#039;s ToS] state the material is copyright by its author, which is as I expected.)--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it&#039;s not, since she doesn&#039;t include that job on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/micole/sudberg her LinkedIn page].) People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Pleasantville, if you think it&#039;s so important, why don&#039;t you just put that on her wiki page? I don&#039;t see why that requires people to be divided into separate categories on this page. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 19:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I did already. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32005</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32005"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T20:19:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Internal Links for Blog Post Titles */ fixed mangled bit&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::The general rule of thumb for fair use is quoting 150 words. On my blog, I don&#039;t sweat this and on rare occasions when it becomes an issue I either remove the content, pay a fee for use, or both, but Wikis can  exist only because of the willingness to put things under a free license (in this case GNU Free Documentation License 1.2), so in general one should adhere to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use fair use guidelines]. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it&#039;s not, since she doesn&#039;t include that job on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/micole/sudberg her LinkedIn page].) People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Pleasantville, if you think it&#039;s so important, why don&#039;t you just put that on her wiki page? I don&#039;t see why that requires people to be divided into separate categories on this page. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 19:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I did already. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32004</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32004"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T20:19:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Internal Links for Blog Post Titles */ rule of thumb&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::The general rule of thumb for fair use is quoting 150 words. On my blog, I don&#039;t sweat this and on rare occasions when it becomes an issue I either remove the content, pay a fee for use, or both, but Wiki&#039;s can  exist because of of the willingness to put things under a free license (in this case GNU Free Documentation License 1.2), so in general one should adhere to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use fair use guidelines]. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it&#039;s not, since she doesn&#039;t include that job on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/micole/sudberg her LinkedIn page].) People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Pleasantville, if you think it&#039;s so important, why don&#039;t you just put that on her wiki page? I don&#039;t see why that requires people to be divided into separate categories on this page. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 19:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I did already. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32003</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32003"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T20:14:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Names and pseudonyms */ ::I did already. --~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it&#039;s not, since she doesn&#039;t include that job on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/micole/sudberg her LinkedIn page].) People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Pleasantville, if you think it&#039;s so important, why don&#039;t you just put that on her wiki page? I don&#039;t see why that requires people to be divided into separate categories on this page. --[[User:Vito excalibur|Vito excalibur]] 19:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I did already. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 20:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32000</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=32000"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:39:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Names and pseudonyms */&lt;/p&gt;
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I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
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:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it&#039;s not, since she doesn&#039;t include that job on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/micole/sudberg her LinkedIn page].) People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31999</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31999"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:28:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Names and pseudonyms */ added to prev comment&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=Internal Links for Blog Post Titles=&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
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:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? (I presume it&#039;s not, since she doesn&#039;t include that job on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/micole/sudberg her LinkedIn page]. People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31998</id>
		<title>Talk:RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Talk:RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31998"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:22:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Names and pseudonyms */ People don&amp;#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --~~~~&lt;/p&gt;
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I thought it would be a good idea for each of the major blog posts (particularly those that have disappeared from the public Internet) to have its own page where we can call out highlights, important threads, and individual comments that sparked other discussions/posts, etc.  That will keep the main timeline page pretty clear and straightforward.  -KTempest&lt;br /&gt;
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:It&#039;s a good idea, though copyright restrictions may apply. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] aka [[Kathryn Cramer]]16:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I think it is fair use, as these posts have been quoted and responded to and are part of public discourse. I&#039;m not the expert on that though. 8-) --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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=Names and pseudonyms=&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m really not digging this distinction between the pseudonyms and the driver&#039;s license names. Is this necessary, and if so, why?&lt;br /&gt;
- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Since it is important to know who is speaking, and for half the participants, we don&#039;t. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 17:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: This was one the sub-issues raised in the events being documented, and so I personally disagree on the wiki taking a position on it here. --Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There&#039;s really no way not to take a position on it: either we separate the names or we don&#039;t. -- vito excalibur&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don&#039;t see any point in separating people out under different headings. If the person has, themselves, associated their real name with their screen name or pen name, or if it is common public knowledge (as it is for my screen name of badgerbag), list one with the other(s) right next to it and alphabetize under the name you think people are most commonly known by. If there are pages for both identities, link them to each other or make a redirect page.  By the way, to make this nifty name/time stamp, click the signature-looking thing in the little toolbar above the edit text input window, and it will magically appear.. --[[User:Liz Henry|Liz Henry]] 17:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Yeah, I put that badly. Let me rephrase: I disagree with Kathryn Cramer that the distinction was necessary or useful. And now I see that it&#039;s been changed while I was off. -- Kate Nepveu&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think it sort of speaks for itself anyway.--[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 18:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of why this is necessary, I ask: Is it widely known, for example, that [[coffeeandink]] used to work at Tor, where she reported to [[pnh]]? People don&#039;t just spring into existence when they make up pseudonyms. --[[User:Pleasantville|Pleasantville]] 19:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Micole_Iris_Sudberg&amp;diff=31997</id>
		<title>Micole Iris Sudberg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Micole_Iris_Sudberg&amp;diff=31997"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:12:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: expanded&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/ Micole Iris Sudberg]&#039;&#039;&#039; is a blogger. She was formerly an Assistant Editor at [[Tor Books]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tarakharper.com/k_factor.htm#writing TARA K. HARPER WRITER&#039;S WORKSHOP: Factors that Influence the Success of a Book]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who reported to [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] and served as assistant to [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Sudberg, Micole Iris}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Living people]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Year of birth missing]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bloggers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Editors]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31996</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31996"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:03:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Terminology */ * false names&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
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(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
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January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
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:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(January 14, 2009, probably? [[medievalist]] posts an explanation of phouka mythology in relation to Blood &amp;amp; Iron. Post &amp;amp; discussion later deleted/made unavailable.)&lt;br /&gt;
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January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]], [[medievalist]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers they criticize. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Some of these comments occur in a post by [[mac_stone]] about child abuse in relation to unspecified current discussion, including [[pnh]]&#039;s &amp;quot;smart&amp;quot; comment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction &amp;amp; fantasy writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as [[darkerblogistan]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[igorsanchez]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([[willshetterly]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), blogger &amp;amp; editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[blog-whoring]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[false names]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Willshetterly&amp;diff=31995</id>
		<title>Willshetterly</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Willshetterly&amp;diff=31995"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:02:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: #REDIRECT Will Shetterly&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Will Shetterly]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31994</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31994"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:01:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ remark&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(January 14, 2009, probably? [[medievalist]] posts an explanation of phouka mythology in relation to Blood &amp;amp; Iron. Post &amp;amp; discussion later deleted/made unavailable.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]], [[medievalist]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers they criticize. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Some of these comments occur in a post by [[mac_stone]] about child abuse in relation to unspecified current discussion, including [[pnh]]&#039;s &amp;quot;smart&amp;quot; comment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction &amp;amp; fantasy writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as [[darkerblogistan]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[igorsanchez]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([[willshetterly]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), blogger &amp;amp; editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[blog-whoring]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31993</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31993"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:00:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ note on Micole&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(January 14, 2009, probably? [[medievalist]] posts an explanation of phouka mythology in relation to Blood &amp;amp; Iron. Post &amp;amp; discussion later deleted/made unavailable.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]], [[medievalist]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers they criticize. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Some of these comments occur in a post by [[mac_stone]] about child abuse in relation to unspecified current discussion, including [[pnh]]&#039;s &amp;quot;smart&amp;quot; comment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction &amp;amp; fantasy writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as [[darkerblogistan]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[igorsanchez]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([[willshetterly]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), blogger &amp;amp; editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[blog-whoring]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31991</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31991"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T19:00:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ format&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(January 14, 2009, probably? [[medievalist]] posts an explanation of phouka mythology in relation to Blood &amp;amp; Iron. Post &amp;amp; discussion later deleted/made unavailable.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]], [[medievalist]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers they criticize. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Some of these comments occur in a post by [[mac_stone]] about child abuse in relation to unspecified current discussion, including [[pnh]]&#039;s &amp;quot;smart&amp;quot; comment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction &amp;amp; fantasy writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as [[darkerblogistan]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[igorsanchez]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([[willshetterly]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31989</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31989"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:59:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ wikify&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers the criticize.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction &amp;amp; fantasy writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as [[darkerblogistan]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[igorsanchez]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31988</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31988"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:56:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ remark&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers the criticize.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction &amp;amp; fantasy writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as darkerblogistan&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and igorsanchez&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Nojojojo&amp;diff=31987</id>
		<title>Nojojojo</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Nojojojo&amp;diff=31987"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:55:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: #REDIRECT N. K. Jemisin&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[N. K. Jemisin]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Pnh&amp;diff=31986</id>
		<title>Pnh</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Pnh&amp;diff=31986"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:54:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: #REDIRECT Patrick Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31985</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31985"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:54:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ wikify&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers the criticize.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as darkerblogistan&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and igorsanchez&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly [[pnh]] on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Tnh&amp;diff=31984</id>
		<title>Tnh</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=Tnh&amp;diff=31984"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:53:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: #REDIRECT Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31983</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31983"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:52:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ wikify &amp;amp; format&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers the criticize.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as darkerblogistan&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and igorsanchez&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([[tnh]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; [[BoingBoing]]&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly pnh on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;references-small&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RaceFail 09]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2009 events]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31982</id>
		<title>RaceFail 09</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.feministsf.net/index.php?title=RaceFail_09&amp;diff=31982"/>
		<updated>2009-02-06T18:51:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Pleasantville: /* Dramatis personae */ alphabetize&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;RaceFail 09 is a term used to refer to an extended discussion of race and racism in science fiction books, culture, fandom, and criticism that began in January 2009. It has been called by many other names, including the Great Cultural Appropriation Debate of Doom 3 (or 2), and RaceFail 9000.  &lt;br /&gt;
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(Ed. note: A more positive name could highlight the community strength and backup shown... but so far it&#039;s mostly been described as &amp;quot;fail&amp;quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(There is a good outline of one on avalon&#039;s willow&#039;s blog -- also see discussion tab for notes on formatting and linking0)&lt;br /&gt;
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January 8, 2009: [[Another shot at thinking about the Other]] by [[Jay Lake]] on [http://jaylake.livejournal.com/1692287.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:This post came a few days before the main source of discussion in Elizabeth Bear&#039;s journal, and through it is not stated, may have contributed to her musings.  Inspired by a discussion on &#039;&#039;The Edge of the American West&#039;&#039; about &amp;quot;speaking from cultural authority and presumed expertise.&amp;quot;  Lake expressed disdain for the idea that white writers don&#039;t have &amp;quot;standing&amp;quot; to use Aboriginal or First Nations material in their fiction.  The comment thread, 78 responses long, was filled with fail.  A lot of 101-level thinking.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 12, 2009: [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The main source of fail.  Bear explains how to write The Other.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 13, 2009: [[I Didn&#039;t Dream of Dragons]] by [[deepad]] on [http://deepad.livejournal.com/29656.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not a direct response to Bear&#039;s post, but triggered by it.  &amp;quot;...this is more my commentary on the Western, White novels and blogs I have been reading recently, and my experience as an Indian reader.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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January 13, 2009: [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] by [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] on [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2009/01/open-letter-to-elizabeth-bear.html Seeking Avalon]&lt;br /&gt;
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:A response to [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544111.html?thread=30733743&amp;amp;style=mine#t30733743 a thread] in [[whatever you&#039;re doing, you&#039;re probably wrong.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;m not calling you a monster. I&#039;m not calling you a racist. But I am calling you clueless and ill worded and more than a touch thoughtless. Your ability to think about things, &#039;&#039;sometimes&#039;&#039;, does not erase my pain or lack.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 14, 2009: [[real magic can never be made by offering up someone else&#039;s liver.]] by [[Elizabeth Bear]] on [http://matociquala.livejournal.com/1544999.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:A response to [[Open Letter: To Elizabeth Bear]] in which Bear acknowledges that [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]]&#039;s criticism is valid.  Comments start out badly (&amp;quot;Over sensitivity to perceived racism tends to result in the nit picking of words and sentence structure.&amp;quot;) and go downhill quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 14, 2009: [[Untitled Post about Avalon&#039;s Willow&#039;s open letter to Bear]] by [[Sarah Monette]] on [http://truepenny.livejournal.com/625351.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Acknowledges that intent and result do not always match up.  Comments devolve into failfest, marked particularly by [[Macallister Stone]] and [[Emma Bull]] invalidating criticism because it isn&#039;t academic enough and also because some readers aren&#039;t as smart as the writers the criticize.&lt;br /&gt;
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(some other stuff here)&lt;br /&gt;
(including pnh and others commenting on chopchica&#039;s LJ in discussion of mac_stone&#039;s statements)&lt;br /&gt;
(Patrick Nielsen Hayden deletes his pnh LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
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January 26, 2009: [[I&#039;m taking this about as well as you&#039;d expect.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6256.html LJ] (original is now friends-locked)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Teresa&#039;s response to Patrick&#039;s emotional state after been called on his comments.  Original post and comments full of fail and including several problematic uses of language.&lt;br /&gt;
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January 26, 2009: [[My only statement on the cultural appropriation imbroglio]] by [[David Levine]] on [http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:In response to Levine finding out why [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] deleted his LJ.  With comments disabled, Levine proceeds to chide the &amp;quot;anti-racist&amp;quot; side for scaring him and other white writers off of writing characters of color and ends with &amp;quot;Is this what you wanted?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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January 27, 2009: [[The last comment that went up before I flocked the previous post.]] by [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] on [http://tnh.livejournal.com/6434.html LJ]&lt;br /&gt;
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:A post meant to explain why the previous post disappeared for so many readers.  Some conversations and fights continued in the comments here and include failure by Teresa to shut down problem comments and language because the people using said language were on her side.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Links and external references ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/146697.html Rydra Wong&#039;s list of over two hundred posts constituting RaceFail &#039;09]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dramatis personae ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Avalon&#039;s Willow]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/2006/08/about-seeking-avalon.html Seeking Avalon: About Seeking Avalon]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; / [http://seeking-avalon.blogspot.com/ Seeking Avalon] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elizabeth Bear]] aka [[Sarah Bear Elizabeth Wishnevsky]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bear Wlizabeth Bear Wikipedia entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ([[matociquala]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://matociquala.livejournal.com/profile matociquala LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[K. Tempest Bradford]] ([[ktempest]] on LJ&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ktempest.livejournal.com/profile ktempest] on LJ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?K._Tempest_Bradford K. Tempest Bradford at the ISFDB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Emma Bull]] aka [[coffeem]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeem.livejournal.com/profile coffeeem LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[chopchica]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://chopchica.livejournal.com/profile chopchica LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ciderpress]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ciderpress.livejournal.com/profile ciderpress LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[deepad]] aka &amp;quot;Deepa D.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://deepad.livejournal.com/profile deepad LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dell]] ([[marydell]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marydell.livejournal.com/profile marydell on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[delux_vivens]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://delux-vivens.livejournal.com/profile delux-vivens LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Luke Jackson]] (participated pseudonymously as darkerblogistan&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://darkerblogistan.livejournal.com/profile darkerblogistan LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and igorsanchez&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://igorsanchez.livejournal.com/profile igorsanchez LJ profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; unmasked by kynn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/next/2009/01/24/author-asshattery-luke-jackson/ Author Asshattery: Luke Jackson] by [[kynn]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roz Kaveney]], ([http://rozk.livejournal.com/profile RozK] on LJ), transwoman journalist and publisher&#039;s adviser.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kynn]] aka [[Kynn Bartlett]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.com/ kynn.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kynn.livejournal.com/profile kynn LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jay Lake]] ([[jaylake]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://jaylake.livejournal.com/profile jaylake on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Levine]] ([[davidlevine]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://davidlevine.livejournal.com/154220.html davidlevine on LJ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[mac_stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mac_stone.livejournal.com/profile mac_stone LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (identified as [[MacAllister Stone]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.macallisterstone.com/stones/ Stones in the Field]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; above)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[medievalist]] ( [[Lisa L. Spangenberg]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://medievalist.livejournal.com/profile medievalist LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sarah Monette]] aka [[truepenny]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://truepenny.livejournal.com/profile truepenny LJ user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[kate_nepveu]] ([[Kate Nepveu]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://kate_nepveu.livejournal.com/profile kate_nepveu LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.steelypips.org/ steelypips.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&amp;amp;user=5984 Kate Nepveu Tor.com user profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teresa Nielsen Hayden]] ([http://tnh.livejournal.com/profile tnh] on LJ), a science fiction editor &amp;amp; BoingBoing&#039;s comment section moderator&lt;br /&gt;
*  [[Patrick Nielsen Hayden]] (formerly pnh on LJ; deleted account), a science fiction editor&lt;br /&gt;
* [[nojojojo]] aka [[Nora Jemison]] who writes as [[N. K. Jemisin]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nkjemisin.com/my-fiction/ Epiphany 2.0 - Author NK Jemison]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nojojojo.livejournal.com/profile nojojojo LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[oyceter]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://oyceter.livejournal.com/profile oyceter LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[rydra_wong]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rydra-wong.livejournal.com/profile rydra-wong LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,:  compiled lists of links to posts on the subject, sometimes more than daily.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Will Shetterly]] ([http://willshetterly.livejournal.com/profile willshetterly] on LJ), a science fiction writer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[sparkymonster]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sparkymonster.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[spiralsheep]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spiralsheep.livejournal.com/profile sparkymonster LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Micole Sudberg]] ([[coffeeandink]] aka &amp;quot;Micole&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/profile coffeeandink LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on LJ)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[vito_excalibur]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://vito-excalibur.livejournal.com/profile vito-excalibur LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yeloson]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://yeloson.livejournal.com/profile yeloson LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[yonmei]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.feministsf.net/?author=40 Yonmei&#039;s posts at Feminist SF - the blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[zvi_likes_tv]] aka [[zvi]], a writer of [[fan fiction]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.slashx-files.com/aboutme.html zvi reflects]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://zvi_likes_tv.livejournal.com/profile zvi_likes_tv LJ User Profile]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Terminology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[orcing]] or orking&lt;br /&gt;
* [[white women&#039;s tears]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[privilege]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[flock]] (read as F-lock), locking a post to be friends-only&lt;br /&gt;
* [[friending]] and defriending - terms in social media&lt;br /&gt;
* [[fail]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[trolling]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See Also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation (WisCon 30 Panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cultural Appropriation Revisited (WisCon 31 panel)‎]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[cultural appropriation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Internet drama]]  &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Online discussions]]  &lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Pleasantville</name></author>
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