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<p>Reverted edits by <a href="/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/147.156.98.148" title="Special:Contributions/147.156.98.148">147.156.98.148</a> (<a href="/index.php?title=User_talk:147.156.98.148&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:147.156.98.148 (page does not exist)">Talk</a>) to last revision by <a href="/index.php?title=User:Lquilter" title="User:Lquilter">Lquilter</a></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:32, 6 April 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; 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text-decoration: none;">/link</del>], <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://bsyzqdhxybjb</del>.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">com/</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=Panel Description==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Laádan vs tlhIngan Hol</ins>: <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">differential diffusion of created languages (#15)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Science and Technology•Conference Room 3• Friday, 1:00-2:15 p.m</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In the left corner</ins>, [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[Láadan]</ins>]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, the brain child of [</ins>[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Suzette Haden Elgin]</ins>], <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a revolutionary secret language expressing soft</ins>/<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">feminine</ins>/<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">convival concepts largely ignored in a technocratic male–dominated society</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(A Láadan Grammar &amp; Dictionary was published by [[SF3]</ins>] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in Madison, Wisconsin.) In the right corner, [</ins>[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Klingon]</ins>], <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">language of a hierarchical warrior society born in the [[Star Trek]] universe</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Guess which invented language flourishes with academies and Shakespeare translation? Why is the Klingon battlet holding more appeal than the vine wreath? Is it possible to apppreciate the two languages as different facets of human culture and psyche?</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Panelists==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Panelists==</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p>-2</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:31, 6 April 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>=<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=Panel Description==</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pDmZF0  &lt;a href</ins>=<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"http</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">//uhkrrpzdxjct.com/"&gt;uhkrrpzdxjct&lt;/a&gt;</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[url=http</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">//yoiibxjzufma</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">com/]yoiibxjzufma</ins>[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/url</ins>], [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">link=http:</ins>//<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ptjqhdgqtxxs</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">com/</ins>]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ptjqhdgqtxxs</ins>[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/link</ins>], <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://bsyzqdhxybjb</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">com/</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Laádan vs tlhIngan Hol</del>: <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">differential diffusion of created languages (#15)</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Science and Technology•Conference Room 3• Friday</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">1</del>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">00-2:15 p</del>.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">m.</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In the left corner, </del>[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[Láadan]</del>], <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the brain child of </del>[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[Suzette Haden Elgin]], a revolutionary secret language expressing soft</del>/<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">feminine</del>/<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">convival concepts largely ignored in a technocratic male–dominated society</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(A Láadan Grammar &amp; Dictionary was published by [[SF3]</del>] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in Madison, Wisconsin.) In the right corner, </del>[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[Klingon]</del>], <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">language of a hierarchical warrior society born in the [[Star Trek]] universe</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Guess which invented language flourishes with academies and Shakespeare translation? Why is the Klingon battlet holding more appeal than the vine wreath? Is it possible to apppreciate the two languages as different facets of human culture and psyche?</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Panelists==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Panelists==</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Partial &amp; rough transcript: </span> links</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:56, 9 April 2008</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l32">Line 32:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 32:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Elizabeth:  La&amp;aacute;dan not pushed, thought experiment.  Exposure is fan-created. star trek ...[...]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Elizabeth:  La&amp;aacute;dan not pushed, thought experiment.  Exposure is fan-created. star trek ...[...]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[someone] : What grabs people's imaginations?  what is it about a world? Pern, MZB, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">lackey</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">tolkien</del>'s elvish.  Far more popular now.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[someone] : What grabs people's imaginations?  what is it about a world? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Pern<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>MZB<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Mercedes Lackey|Lackey]]</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Tolkien</ins>'s elvish.  Far more popular now.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Greg Rihn: start rumor that La&amp;aacute;dan is the vast feminist conspiracy. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">then </del>we'll have the motion picture The La&amp;aacute;dan Code... *laughter*</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Greg Rihn: start rumor that La&amp;aacute;dan is the vast <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>feminist conspiracy<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Then </ins>we'll have the motion picture The La&amp;aacute;dan Code... *laughter*</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Suzette:  has to catch on its own or it&#039;s not real. if I had done a lot of promotion.. . but then it would not be real.  It did not happen in large numbers.  Or they would do one themselves that was a better one or a group one.  none of those things happened. most of the interest in the language has come from men, oddly enough. I am barraged with letters from men  &quot;may I use your book in my class....&quot; I don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing... maybe making fun of it!</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Suzette:  has to catch on its own or it&#039;s not real. if I had done a lot of promotion.. . but then it would not be real.  It did not happen in large numbers.  Or they would do one themselves that was a better one or a group one.  none of those things happened. most of the interest in the language has come from men, oddly enough. I am barraged with letters from men  &quot;may I use your book in my class....&quot; I don&#039;t know what they&#039;re doing... maybe making fun of it!</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p>cat</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:24, 30 July 2007</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Science and Technology•Conference Room 3• Friday, 1:00-2:15 p.m.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Science and Technology•Conference Room 3• Friday, 1:00-2:15 p.m.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In the left corner, Láadan, the brain child of Suzette Haden Elgin, a revolutionary secret language expressing soft/feminine/convival concepts largely ignored in a technocratic male–dominated society. (A Láadan Grammar &amp; Dictionary was published by SF3 in Madison, Wisconsin.) In the right corner, Klingon, language of a hierarchical warrior society born in the Star Trek universe. Guess which invented language flourishes with academies and Shakespeare translation? Why is the Klingon battlet holding more appeal than the vine wreath? Is it possible to apppreciate the two languages as different facets of human culture and psyche?</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In the left corner, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Láadan<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, the brain child of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Suzette Haden Elgin<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, a revolutionary secret language expressing soft/feminine/convival concepts largely ignored in a technocratic male–dominated society. (A Láadan Grammar &amp; Dictionary was published by <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>SF3<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>in Madison, Wisconsin.) In the right corner, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Klingon<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, language of a hierarchical warrior society born in the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Star Trek<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>universe. Guess which invented language flourishes with academies and Shakespeare translation? Why is the Klingon battlet holding more appeal than the vine wreath? Is it possible to apppreciate the two languages as different facets of human culture and psyche?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Panelists==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Panelists==</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l246">Line 246:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 246:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[category:WisCon 30 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Panels</del>]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[category:WisCon 30 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">panels</ins>]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Láadan]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Láadan]]</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p>added cat laadan</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:01, 20 December 2006</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Partial &amp; rough transcript==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Partial &amp; rough transcript==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>   </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&#039;&#039;&#039;Friday 1-2:15, La&amp;aacute;dan vs. Tlhlngan Hol: Differential Diffusion of Created Languages.  M.J. Hardman, Elizabeth Barrette, Suzette Haden Elgin, John M. Ford, Andre Guirard.&#039;&#039;&#039;</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>&#039;&#039;&#039;Friday 1-2:15, La&amp;aacute;dan vs. Tlhlngan Hol: Differential Diffusion of Created Languages.  M.J. Hardman, Elizabeth Barrette, Suzette Haden Elgin, John M. Ford, Andre Guirard.&#039;&#039;&#039;</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l248">Line 248:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 247:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[category:WisCon 30 Panels]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[category:WisCon 30 Panels]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Category:Láadan]]</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><a href="/index.php?title=La%C3%A1dan_vs_tlhIngan_Hol_(WisCon_30_Panel)" class="mw-redirect" title="Laádan vs tlhIngan Hol (WisCon 30 Panel)">Laádan vs tlhIngan Hol (WisCon 30 Panel)</a> moved to <a href="/index.php?title=L%C3%A1adan_vs_tlhIngan_Hol_(WisCon_30_Panel)" title="Láadan vs tlhIngan Hol (WisCon 30 Panel)">Láadan vs tlhIngan Hol (WisCon 30 Panel)</a>: revert move, TEXT needs to be fixed, not title - i&#039;m tired</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="1" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:00, 20 December 2006</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr></table>

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