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		<title>Lquilter: Talk:Body-swapping, Sex Change, Passing moved to Talk:Gendered &quot;Otherness&quot; Experiences in the Body: trying to be more accurate as to the nuance without appearing to conflate different phenomena</title>
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		<updated>2006-04-28T11:35:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Body-swapping,_Sex_Change,_Passing&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Body-swapping, Sex Change, Passing&quot;&gt;Talk:Body-swapping, Sex Change, Passing&lt;/a&gt; moved to &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Gendered_%22Otherness%22_Experiences_in_the_Body&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Gendered &amp;quot;Otherness&amp;quot; Experiences in the Body&quot;&gt;Talk:Gendered &amp;quot;Otherness&amp;quot; Experiences in the Body&lt;/a&gt;: trying to be more accurate as to the nuance without appearing to conflate different phenomena&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Lquilter</name></author>
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		<title>Lquilter at 11:32, 28 April 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-04-28T11:32:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yeah they&amp;#039;re each separate phenomena that deserve their own bibliographies &amp;amp; discussions. There&amp;#039;s an element of commonality to each of them in SF, though; the authors use them to explore the characters&amp;#039; inhabiting the &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; gender. Multiple &amp;quot;souls&amp;quot; or psychic presences in the same body (usually differently-gendered) presents the same issue but I couldn&amp;#039;t figure out a quick way to summarize that.  (Includes, for instance, Tanya Huff; Lynn Flewelling; Robert Heinlein.) Maybe what needs to happen is one pithy title to capture the &amp;quot;gendered other body experiences&amp;quot; and each of those can e sub-categories.  Some or perhaps all would also be representative of other phenomena as well. [[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 04:30, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yeah they&amp;#039;re each separate phenomena that deserve their own bibliographies &amp;amp; discussions. There&amp;#039;s an element of commonality to each of them in SF, though; the authors use them to explore the characters&amp;#039; inhabiting the &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; gender. Multiple &amp;quot;souls&amp;quot; or psychic presences in the same body (usually differently-gendered) presents the same issue but I couldn&amp;#039;t figure out a quick way to summarize that.  (Includes, for instance, Tanya Huff; Lynn Flewelling; Robert Heinlein.) Maybe what needs to happen is one pithy title to capture the &amp;quot;gendered other body experiences&amp;quot; and each of those can e sub-categories.  Some or perhaps all would also be representative of other phenomena as well. [[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 04:30, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Initials, pseudonyms, and anonymity. I would call that a type of authorial passing; but different from the phenomena of &#039;passing women&#039;  [[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 04:32, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Lquilter</name></author>
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		<title>Lquilter at 11:30, 28 April 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-04-28T11:30:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;These topics should be given pages of their own, and [[passing]], for instance, must be considered in instances where the authors do it, as well as characters within stories. See [[initials]] and [[pseudonyms]]. --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 04:19, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;These topics should be given pages of their own, and [[passing]], for instance, must be considered in instances where the authors do it, as well as characters within stories. See [[initials]] and [[pseudonyms]]. --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 04:19, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Yeah they&#039;re each separate phenomena that deserve their own bibliographies &amp;amp; discussions. There&#039;s an element of commonality to each of them in SF, though; the authors use them to explore the characters&#039; inhabiting the &quot;other&quot; gender. Multiple &quot;souls&quot; or psychic presences in the same body (usually differently-gendered) presents the same issue but I couldn&#039;t figure out a quick way to summarize that.  (Includes, for instance, Tanya Huff; Lynn Flewelling; Robert Heinlein.) Maybe what needs to happen is one pithy title to capture the &quot;gendered other body experiences&quot; and each of those can e sub-categories.  Some or perhaps all would also be representative of other phenomena as well. [[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 04:30, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ide Cyan: reassignment of topics suggested</title>
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		<updated>2006-04-28T11:19:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;reassignment of topics suggested&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;These topics should be given pages of their own, and [[passing]], for instance, must be considered in instances where the authors do it, as well as characters within stories. See [[initials]] and [[pseudonyms]]. --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 04:19, 28 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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