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Yonmei: /* Material from elsewhere */

2007-05-10T22:32:58Z

Material from elsewhere

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	My reason for including "non-canon" (relationships) in the definition is/was that: while it had simply been ''unnecessary'' to include this clause prior to the appearance of openly queer characters in relationships in significant roles onscreen, their appearance made it necessary to distinguish between a normative continuation of those relationships in fic and the slashing of uncanonical pairings. I'm reading Yonmei's entry on slash on the blog right now, though, and strongest argument for not including "non-canon" within a definition of slash I can think of is: because slash is about what the women who write it want, and not about the normative continuation of the text we're working from, whether or not those texts do happen to include canonical queer pairings. Which would work for me. And that's my 2¢ (Canadian), for now. --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 14:21, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		My reason for including "non-canon" (relationships) in the definition is/was that: while it had simply been ''unnecessary'' to include this clause prior to the appearance of openly queer characters in relationships in significant roles onscreen, their appearance made it necessary to distinguish between a normative continuation of those relationships in fic and the slashing of uncanonical pairings. I'm reading Yonmei's entry on slash on the blog right now, though, and strongest argument for not including "non-canon" within a definition of slash I can think of is: because slash is about what the women who write it want, and not about the normative continuation of the text we're working from, whether or not those texts do happen to include canonical queer pairings. Which would work for me. And that's my 2¢ (Canadian), for now. --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 14:21, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

			== Material from elsewhere ==

			The problem with providing Slash Theory is not that it doesn't exist, but that there's so bloody much of it!

			The Four Waves theory, presented by Lezlie Shell 14 years ago and still cited / recognized / argued about, seems like a good place to start. I haven't edited it much: will try to tweak it some more. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 15:32, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

Ide Cyan: -> The Great Canon Debate thread

2007-05-08T21:21:56Z

-> The Great Canon Debate thread

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	:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
	: Any approaches you know about would be helpful ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		: Any approaches you know about would be helpful ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

			== The Great Canon Debate ==

			;So here's a section to discuss the Great Canon Debate!

			My reason for including "non-canon" (relationships) in the definition is/was that: while it had simply been ''unnecessary'' to include this clause prior to the appearance of openly queer characters in relationships in significant roles onscreen, their appearance made it necessary to distinguish between a normative continuation of those relationships in fic and the slashing of uncanonical pairings. I'm reading Yonmei's entry on slash on the blog right now, though, and strongest argument for not including "non-canon" within a definition of slash I can think of is: because slash is about what the women who write it want, and not about the normative continuation of the text we're working from, whether or not those texts do happen to include canonical queer pairings. Which would work for me. And that's my 2¢ (Canadian), for now. --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 14:21, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

Lquilter: clarity

2007-05-08T19:11:44Z

clarity

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	: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)		: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
	:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
	: ~~So write about whatever~~ approaches you know about ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		: Any approaches you know about would be helpful ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

Lquilter: notes

2007-05-08T19:05:16Z

notes

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	: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)		: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
	:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
			: So write about whatever approaches you know about ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

Yonmei at 18:39, 8 May 2007

2007-05-08T18:39:29Z

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	: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)		: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
			:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

Lquilter: slash approach etc

2007-05-07T14:07:55Z

slash approach etc

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	:: It's not JUST fanfiction, but it is primarily fanfiction. Without the fanfiction, slash fandom wouldn't exist: but slash fandom is more than just fanfiction. (Ide Cyan forgot to mention the music vids!) [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 02:59, 7 May 2007 (PDT)		:: It's not JUST fanfiction, but it is primarily fanfiction. Without the fanfiction, slash fandom wouldn't exist: but slash fandom is more than just fanfiction. (Ide Cyan forgot to mention the music vids!) [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 02:59, 7 May 2007 (PDT)

			: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)

Yonmei at 09:59, 7 May 2007

2007-05-07T09:59:02Z

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	:Slash Is A Way Of Life. It's an attitude. It's an approach to viweing and reading texts. It's critical essays, conventions, artwork, communities, in-jokes and flamewars and broccoli and green sweaters, oh my! --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 10:55, 6 May 2007 (PDT)		:Slash Is A Way Of Life. It's an attitude. It's an approach to viweing and reading texts. It's critical essays, conventions, artwork, communities, in-jokes and flamewars and broccoli and green sweaters, oh my! --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 10:55, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

			:: It's not JUST fanfiction, but it is primarily fanfiction. Without the fanfiction, slash fandom wouldn't exist: but slash fandom is more than just fanfiction. (Ide Cyan forgot to mention the music vids!) [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 02:59, 7 May 2007 (PDT)

Ide Cyan: O R LY? YA, R LY.

2007-05-06T17:55:19Z

O R LY? YA, R LY.

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	Hi Ide Cyan -- Would you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)		Hi Ide Cyan -- Would you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

			:Slash Is A Way Of Life. It's an attitude. It's an approach to viweing and reading texts. It's critical essays, conventions, artwork, communities, in-jokes and flamewars and broccoli and green sweaters, oh my! --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 10:55, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

Lquilter: woudl

2007-05-06T16:31:46Z

woudl

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	Hi Ide Cyan -- ~~Can~~ you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)		Hi Ide Cyan -- Would you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

Lquilter: explain?

2007-05-06T16:31:33Z

explain?

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Hi Ide Cyan -- Can you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

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	: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)		: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
	:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
	: ~~So write about whatever~~ approaches you know about ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		: Any approaches you know about would be helpful ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

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	: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)		: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
	:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)		:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei\|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
			: So write about whatever approaches you know about ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter\|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)