Talk:Works by women eligible for 2009 SF Awards - Revision history

Greyweather: /* Standing in the 2009 Hugo */

2009-09-19T00:31:18Z

Standing in the 2009 Hugo

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	[[Jo Walton]]'s Half a Crown was the highest nominee for the novel category, with 38 ballots naming her to place her 11th in line. 17 more ballots would have gotten her book onto the shortlist. [[Lois McMaster Bujold]], who has enjoyed so much success in the past, garnered only 16 ballots, less than 3% of ballots cast. For comparison the 5th place nominee took 54 votes, or 8.5% of ballots cast.		[[Jo Walton]]'s Half a Crown was the highest nominee for the novel category, with 38 ballots naming her to place her 11th in line. 17 more ballots would have gotten her book onto the shortlist. [[Lois McMaster Bujold]], who has enjoyed so much success in the past, garnered only 16 ballots, less than 3% of ballots cast. For comparison the 5th place nominee took 54 votes, or 8.5% of ballots cast.

	[[Nancy Kress]], the only woman on the novella shortlist, was the winner. [[Kristine Kathryn Rusch]] missed the cutoff by 9 votes leaving her at 8th in line.		[[Nancy Kress]], the only woman on the novella shortlist, was the winner. Her novella, "The Erdmann Nexus" was not mentioned on this page. [[Kristine Kathryn Rusch]] missed the cutoff by 9 votes leaving her at 8th in line.

	[[Elizabeth Bear]], the only woman on the novelette shortlist, was the winner. [[Kathleen Ann Goonan]] missed the cutoff by 19 votes leaving her at 12th in line.		[[Elizabeth Bear]], the only woman on the novelette shortlist, was the winner. [[Kathleen Ann Goonan]] missed the cutoff by 19 votes leaving her at 12th in line.

	[[Kij Johnson]] came in second place in the short story category by 44 votes. [[Mary Robinette Kowal]] came in fourth.		[[Kij Johnson]] came in second place in the short story category by 44 votes. [[Mary Robinette Kowal]] came in fourth. Neither of them were listed on this page.

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Greyweather: /* Standing in the 2009 Hugo */

2009-09-19T00:20:23Z

Standing in the 2009 Hugo

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	For those who are curious as to where women stood in the field so far as this past year's Hugos were concerned, here are the details of the nominations.[http://www.thehugoawards.org/content/pdf/2009%20Nominations.pdf]		For those who are curious as to where women stood in the field so far as this past year's Hugos were concerned, here are the details of the nominations.[http://www.thehugoawards.org/content/pdf/2009%20Nominations.pdf]

	[[Jo Walton]]'s Half a Crown was the highest nominee for the novel category, with 38 ballots naming her to place her 11th in line. 17 more ballots would have gotten her book onto the shortlist.		[[Jo Walton]]'s Half a Crown was the highest nominee for the novel category, with 38 ballots naming her to place her 11th in line. 17 more ballots would have gotten her book onto the shortlist. [[Lois McMaster Bujold]], who has enjoyed so much success in the past, garnered only 16 ballots, less than 3% of ballots cast. For comparison the 5th place nominee took 54 votes, or 8.5% of ballots cast.

	[[Nancy Kress]], the only woman on the novella shortlist, was the winner. [[Kristine Kathryn Rusch]] missed the cutoff by 9 votes leaving her at 8th in line.		[[Nancy Kress]], the only woman on the novella shortlist, was the winner. [[Kristine Kathryn Rusch]] missed the cutoff by 9 votes leaving her at 8th in line.

Greyweather: /* Standing in the 2009 Hugo */ new section

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	This page is of course great as a reminder for people who've already read various works and just need their memory jogged. But it occurs to me that for people who are looking for stories to read, it might be neat to add a little more info for these works, to give those readers more than a title and author to go by. If the story has a pull quote (as SH stories do), we could use that; otherwise perhaps a one-sentence description or teaser, or a line from a review, or whatever. It would be a huge amount of work to do this for all stories, of course, but it could be done piecemeal--anyone who has a review or a description could add it at any time. What do y'all think? One potential disadvantage: might clutter up the page. ...I apologize if this comes across as self-serving (because the SH stories already have pull quotes so it would be very easy for me to add those to the page); it would benefit SH, certainly, but I think it would also benefit other publications, 'cause I as a reader am more likely to seek something out if it has an intriguing description or pull quote than if I'm going by just the author and title. But maybe guiding readers to works isn't part of the purpose of this page? Not sure. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)		This page is of course great as a reminder for people who've already read various works and just need their memory jogged. But it occurs to me that for people who are looking for stories to read, it might be neat to add a little more info for these works, to give those readers more than a title and author to go by. If the story has a pull quote (as SH stories do), we could use that; otherwise perhaps a one-sentence description or teaser, or a line from a review, or whatever. It would be a huge amount of work to do this for all stories, of course, but it could be done piecemeal--anyone who has a review or a description could add it at any time. What do y'all think? One potential disadvantage: might clutter up the page. ...I apologize if this comes across as self-serving (because the SH stories already have pull quotes so it would be very easy for me to add those to the page); it would benefit SH, certainly, but I think it would also benefit other publications, 'cause I as a reader am more likely to seek something out if it has an intriguing description or pull quote than if I'm going by just the author and title. But maybe guiding readers to works isn't part of the purpose of this page? Not sure. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

			== Standing in the 2009 Hugo ==

			For those who are curious as to where women stood in the field so far as this past year's Hugos were concerned, here are the details of the nominations.[http://www.thehugoawards.org/content/pdf/2009%20Nominations.pdf]

			[[Jo Walton]]'s Half a Crown was the highest nominee for the novel category, with 38 ballots naming her to place her 11th in line. 17 more ballots would have gotten her book onto the shortlist.

			[[Nancy Kress]], the only woman on the novella shortlist, was the winner. [[Kristine Kathryn Rusch]] missed the cutoff by 9 votes leaving her at 8th in line.

			[[Elizabeth Bear]], the only woman on the novelette shortlist, was the winner. [[Kathleen Ann Goonan]] missed the cutoff by 19 votes leaving her at 12th in line.

			[[Kij Johnson]] came in second place in the short story category by 44 votes. [[Mary Robinette Kowal]] came in fourth.

			[[User:Greyweather\|Greyweather]] 23:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Elysdir: /* Descriptions/pull quotes */ new section

2009-01-12T18:30:16Z

Descriptions/pull quotes: new section

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	Where known, should we add word counts for the longer short-fiction categories, since the Hugo and World Fantasy categorizations have different counts? --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)		Where known, should we add word counts for the longer short-fiction categories, since the Hugo and World Fantasy categorizations have different counts? --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

			== Descriptions/pull quotes ==

			This page is of course great as a reminder for people who've already read various works and just need their memory jogged. But it occurs to me that for people who are looking for stories to read, it might be neat to add a little more info for these works, to give those readers more than a title and author to go by. If the story has a pull quote (as SH stories do), we could use that; otherwise perhaps a one-sentence description or teaser, or a line from a review, or whatever. It would be a huge amount of work to do this for all stories, of course, but it could be done piecemeal--anyone who has a review or a description could add it at any time. What do y'all think? One potential disadvantage: might clutter up the page. ...I apologize if this comes across as self-serving (because the SH stories already have pull quotes so it would be very easy for me to add those to the page); it would benefit SH, certainly, but I think it would also benefit other publications, 'cause I as a reader am more likely to seek something out if it has an intriguing description or pull quote than if I'm going by just the author and title. But maybe guiding readers to works isn't part of the purpose of this page? Not sure. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Elysdir: /* Add word counts for novelettes and novellas? */ new section

2009-01-12T18:24:58Z

Add word counts for novelettes and novellas?: new section

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	I just removed the italics from the short-story titles. If they were intentional, I apologize. I would say they don't need to be set off in this context, but if they do, consider using quotation marks instead of italics. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)		I just removed the italics from the short-story titles. If they were intentional, I apologize. I would say they don't need to be set off in this context, but if they do, consider using quotation marks instead of italics. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

			== Add word counts for novelettes and novellas? ==

			Where known, should we add word counts for the longer short-fiction categories, since the Hugo and World Fantasy categorizations have different counts? --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Elysdir: /* Progress inputting information */ Note about SH stories.

2009-01-12T18:21:43Z

Progress inputting information: Note about SH stories.

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	:: Oops, sorry, I always forget to sign things! [[User:Ktempest\|Tempest]] 17:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)		:: Oops, sorry, I always forget to sign things! [[User:Ktempest\|Tempest]] 17:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

			I just added all the Strange Horizons stories and novelettes by women that we published in 2008. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

	== Italics for story titles ==		== Italics for story titles ==

	I just removed the italics from the short-story titles. If they were intentional, I apologize. I would say they don't need to be set off in this context, but if they do, consider using quotation marks instead of italics. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)		I just removed the italics from the short-story titles. If they were intentional, I apologize. I would say they don't need to be set off in this context, but if they do, consider using quotation marks instead of italics. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Elysdir: /* Italics for story titles */ new section

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	:: Oops, sorry, I always forget to sign things! [[User:Ktempest\|Tempest]] 17:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)		:: Oops, sorry, I always forget to sign things! [[User:Ktempest\|Tempest]] 17:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

			== Italics for story titles ==

			I just removed the italics from the short-story titles. If they were intentional, I apologize. I would say they don't need to be set off in this context, but if they do, consider using quotation marks instead of italics. --[[User:Elysdir\|Elysdir]] 18:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Ktempest: /* Progress inputting information */

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	: I moved the page because "women" didn't need to be capitalised. (In accordance with the loose stylistic standards we've been using on this wiki. I'm wondering whether "Awards" even needs to be capitalised, for the title of this page, for [[Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards‎]] and the others. (I also added a partial signature for Tempest's unsigned comment, above.) --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 03:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)		: I moved the page because "women" didn't need to be capitalised. (In accordance with the loose stylistic standards we've been using on this wiki. I'm wondering whether "Awards" even needs to be capitalised, for the title of this page, for [[Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards‎]] and the others. (I also added a partial signature for Tempest's unsigned comment, above.) --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 03:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

			:: Oops, sorry, I always forget to sign things! [[User:Ktempest\|Tempest]] 17:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Ide Cyan: capitalisation / signatures

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capitalisation / signatures

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	For the novel category, I have all of the books listed on Locus through April release dates already in. For short fiction, I have all of the stories appearing in Print Magazines in January in, some from February. Online magazines still need entering.		For the novel category, I have all of the books listed on Locus through April release dates already in. For short fiction, I have all of the stories appearing in Print Magazines in January in, some from February. Online magazines still need entering. --[[User:Ktempest\|Tempest]] 1 April 2008

			: I moved the page because "women" didn't need to be capitalised. (In accordance with the loose stylistic standards we've been using on this wiki. I'm wondering whether "Awards" even needs to be capitalised, for the title of this page, for [[Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards‎]] and the others. (I also added a partial signature for Tempest's unsigned comment, above.) --[[User:Ide Cyan\|Ide Cyan]] 03:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Ide Cyan: Talk:Works by Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards moved to Talk:Works by women eligible for 2009 SF Awards: lowercase article title -- although I'm not sure whether it ought also to apply to "Awards"

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Talk:Works by Women eligible for 2009 SF Awards moved to Talk:Works by women eligible for 2009 SF Awards: lowercase article title -- although I'm not sure whether it ought also to apply to "Awards"

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