Women and madness in SF - Revision history

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	==See also==		==See also==
	* [[Feminist rage]]		* [[Feminist rage]]
			* [[Psychological ghost story]]
	* [[Women crazed by power]]		* [[Women crazed by power]]
	* [http://blogs.feministsf.net/?p=129 Jean Grey, meet Jane Eyre] (therem 2/21 feminist sf blog)		* [http://blogs.feministsf.net/?p=129 Jean Grey, meet Jane Eyre] (therem 2/21 feminist sf blog)

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	[[Rebecca West]], in ''Black Lamb and Grey Falcon'', defined different types of madness by gender:		[[Rebecca West]], in ''Black Lamb and Grey Falcon'', defined different types of madness by gender:
	: "Idiocy is the female defect: intent on their private lives, women follow their fate through a darkness deep as that cast by malformed cells in the brain. It is no worse than the male defect, which is lunacy: they are so obsessed by public affairs that they see the world as by moonlight, which shows the outlines of every object but not the details indicative of their nature."		: "Idiocy is the female defect: intent on their private lives, women follow their fate through a darkness deep as that cast by malformed cells in the brain. It is no worse than the male defect, which is lunacy: they are so obsessed by public affairs that they see the world as by moonlight, which shows the outlines of every object but not the details indicative of their nature."<ref>[[Rebecca West]], ''Black Lamb and Grey Falcon''.</ref>

	=== Narrative Uses of Madness ===		=== Narrative Uses of Madness ===

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	* "A Very Little Madness Goes a Long Way" by M. Rickert		* "A Very Little Madness Goes a Long Way" by M. Rickert

			==References==
			{{reflist}}



	==See also==		==See also==

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	* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.		* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.

	* Georgia Wood Pangborn -- [[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]] lists several titles by Pangborn and notes that "[w]omen & madness is also a recurrent theme in Mrs. Pangborn's fiction, as is suicide."<ref>[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]], [http://www.violetbooks.com/pangborn.html "The Uncanny Stories of Georgia Wood Pangborn"] (visited 2010/12/22).</ref>		* [[Georgia Wood Pangborn]] -- [[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]] lists several titles by Pangborn and notes that "[w]omen & madness is also a recurrent theme in Mrs. Pangborn's fiction, as is suicide."<ref>[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]], [http://www.violetbooks.com/pangborn.html "The Uncanny Stories of Georgia Wood Pangborn"] (visited 2010/12/22).</ref>
	** "The Fourth Watch" (Bookman November 1905)		** "The Fourth Watch" (Bookman November 1905)
	** "The Intruder" (Harper's June 1907)		** "The Intruder" (Harper's June 1907)

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	* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.		* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.

	; Georgia Wood Pangborn		* Georgia Wood Pangborn -- [[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]] lists several titles by Pangborn and notes that "[w]omen & madness is also a recurrent theme in Mrs. Pangborn's fiction, as is suicide."<ref>[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]], [http://www.violetbooks.com/pangborn.html "The Uncanny Stories of Georgia Wood Pangborn"] (visited 2010/12/22).</ref>
	[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]] lists several titles and notes that "[w]omen & madness is also a recurrent theme in Mrs. Pangborn's fiction, as is suicide."<ref>[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]], [http://www.violetbooks.com/pangborn.html "The Uncanny Stories of Georgia Wood Pangborn"] (visited 2010/12/22).</ref>		** "The Fourth Watch" (Bookman November 1905)
	* "The Fourth Watch" (Bookman November 1905)		** "The Intruder" (Harper's June 1907)
	* "The ~~Ghost Flower~~" (~~Bookman November 1908~~)		** "The Ghost Flower" (Bookman November 1908)
	* "The ~~Boulder~~" (~~Holland's Magazine December 1925) (nonsupernatural, romance~~)		** "Andy MacPherson's House" (Romance March 1920)
	* "Andy MacPherson's House" (Romance March 1920)		** "The Boulder" (Holland's Magazine December 1925) (nonsupernatural, romance)
	* "The ~~Intruder~~" (~~Harper~~'s ~~June 1907~~)

	==suggestions & possibilities==		==suggestions & possibilities==

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	* ''[[Jane Eyre]]'' by [[Charlotte Brontë]]		* ''[[Jane Eyre]]'' by [[Charlotte Brontë]]
	* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.		* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.

			; Georgia Wood Pangborn
			[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]] lists several titles and notes that "[w]omen & madness is also a recurrent theme in Mrs. Pangborn's fiction, as is suicide."<ref>[[Jessica Amanda Salmonson]], [http://www.violetbooks.com/pangborn.html "The Uncanny Stories of Georgia Wood Pangborn"] (visited 2010/12/22).</ref>
			* "The Fourth Watch" (Bookman November 1905)
			* "The Ghost Flower" (Bookman November 1908)
			* "The Boulder" (Holland's Magazine December 1925) (nonsupernatural, romance)
			* "Andy MacPherson's House" (Romance March 1920)
			* "The Intruder" (Harper's June 1907)

	==suggestions & possibilities==		==suggestions & possibilities==

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	[[Category:Feminist issues\|Madness]]		[[Category:Feminist issues\|Madness]]
	[[Category:Psychology and mind themes]]		[[Category:Psychology and mind themes]]
			[[category:Themes and tropes by name]]

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	* SF as always offers opportunities to explore different forms of madness and different social treatments for madness. (See Piercy/WOTEOT.)		* SF as always offers opportunities to explore different forms of madness and different social treatments for madness. (See Piercy/WOTEOT.)

	* Madness long history in non-SF and para-SF genres; see, e.g., Lucia di Lammermoor (opera); ~~BrontÃ«~~'s ''Jane Eyre'' (early gothic / romance) and feminist re-take on madness told from Rochester's wife's perspective (Jean Rhys ''Wide Sargasso Sea''). Madness haunts gothic literature from ''Jane Eyre'' onward; Yellow Wallpaper in partial response to that.		* Madness long history in non-SF and para-SF genres; see, e.g., Lucia di Lammermoor (opera); Brontë's ''Jane Eyre'' (early gothic / romance) and feminist re-take on madness told from Rochester's wife's perspective (Jean Rhys ''Wide Sargasso Sea''). Madness haunts gothic literature from ''Jane Eyre'' onward; Yellow Wallpaper in partial response to that.

	* Madness or the possibility of madness is also a common gambit in SF: Characters confronted by the fantastic or the alien wonder whether what they are experiencing is real, or whether they are mad. Sometimes the audience wonders also, creating a number of works which may, or may not, have fantastic elements.		* Madness or the possibility of madness is also a common gambit in SF: Characters confronted by the fantastic or the alien wonder whether what they are experiencing is real, or whether they are mad. Sometimes the audience wonders also, creating a number of works which may, or may not, have fantastic elements.
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	* ''[[Heroes (TV series)]]'' - character [[Niki Sanders]] in season 1		* ''[[Heroes (TV series)]]'' - character [[Niki Sanders]] in season 1
	* [[Jean Grey]] in X-Men 3 movie		* [[Jean Grey]] in X-Men 3 movie
	* ''[[Jane Eyre]]'' by [[Charlotte ~~BrontÃ«~~]]		* ''[[Jane Eyre]]'' by [[Charlotte Brontë]]
	* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.		* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.

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	* SF as always offers opportunities to explore different forms of madness and different social treatments for madness. (See Piercy/WOTEOT.)		* SF as always offers opportunities to explore different forms of madness and different social treatments for madness. (See Piercy/WOTEOT.)

	* Madness long history in non-SF and para-SF genres; see, e.g., Lucia di Lammermoor (opera); ~~Brontë~~'s ''Jane Eyre'' (early gothic / romance) and feminist re-take on madness told from Rochester's wife's perspective (Jean Rhys ''Wide Sargasso Sea''). Madness haunts gothic literature from ''Jane Eyre'' onward; Yellow Wallpaper in partial response to that.		* Madness long history in non-SF and para-SF genres; see, e.g., Lucia di Lammermoor (opera); BrontÃ«'s ''Jane Eyre'' (early gothic / romance) and feminist re-take on madness told from Rochester's wife's perspective (Jean Rhys ''Wide Sargasso Sea''). Madness haunts gothic literature from ''Jane Eyre'' onward; Yellow Wallpaper in partial response to that.

	* Madness or the possibility of madness is also a common gambit in SF: Characters confronted by the fantastic or the alien wonder whether what they are experiencing is real, or whether they are mad. Sometimes the audience wonders also, creating a number of works which may, or may not, have fantastic elements.		* Madness or the possibility of madness is also a common gambit in SF: Characters confronted by the fantastic or the alien wonder whether what they are experiencing is real, or whether they are mad. Sometimes the audience wonders also, creating a number of works which may, or may not, have fantastic elements.
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	* ''[[Heroes (TV series)]]'' - character [[Niki Sanders]] in season 1		* ''[[Heroes (TV series)]]'' - character [[Niki Sanders]] in season 1
	* [[Jean Grey]] in X-Men 3 movie		* [[Jean Grey]] in X-Men 3 movie
	* ''[[Jane Eyre]]'' by [[Charlotte ~~Brontë~~]]		* ''[[Jane Eyre]]'' by [[Charlotte BrontÃ«]]
	* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.		* ''[[Point Pleasant]]'' - [[Meg Boyd]], Judy's mother, is receiving psychic visions and is therefore insane, or thinks she is insane, or is thought to be insane, or all of the above. Jesse's mother Sarah is semi-insane: obsessively Christian.