Women attacking their lovers - Revision history

Lquilter: cat

2010-06-08T18:27:35Z

cat

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Lquilter: misery

2009-08-07T01:30:54Z

misery

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	** S1 episode "[[Mortal Beloved]]" - Xena stabs her lover Marcus (consensually)		** S1 episode "[[Mortal Beloved]]" - Xena stabs her lover Marcus (consensually)
	** S5 episode "[[Antony and Cleopatra (Xena episode)\|Antony and Cleopatra]]" - Xena stabs her would-be lover Antony during combat		** S5 episode "[[Antony and Cleopatra (Xena episode)\|Antony and Cleopatra]]" - Xena stabs her would-be lover Antony during combat
			* ''[[Witchblade]]'', episode "[[Lagrimas]]"; Sara's new-found lover says that she is the only one who has the power to kill him and end his eternal misery.

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Lquilter: list of works

2007-04-17T16:13:58Z

list of works

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	Other questions: Are there comparable examples of men killing their lovers on screen, or same-sex couples? Is there something unique to the emotional flavor and context of a woman killing her lover/soulmate? Has a man ever killed his female lover-turned-apocalyptically-evil demon as a sacrifice to the world? Or has it happened so many time that it has little emotional resonance? as in, abuse against women depicted so frequently, or so prevalent in the real world, that Mulder shooting Scully, or Angel stabbing Buffy, would have a different flavor, possibly resonating with themes of domestic violence or misogynystic hate crimes? Spike threatening to stab Drusilla was not comparable, despite their Sid-and-Nancy love/"literally soulmates", because he wasn't the protagonist. Season 2 of Angel where he has to take on Darla is ... closer ... in emotional resonance. Season 4, it appears that Angel was willing to kill demonically-possessed Cordelia.		Other questions: Are there comparable examples of men killing their lovers on screen, or same-sex couples? Is there something unique to the emotional flavor and context of a woman killing her lover/soulmate? Has a man ever killed his female lover-turned-apocalyptically-evil demon as a sacrifice to the world? Or has it happened so many time that it has little emotional resonance? as in, abuse against women depicted so frequently, or so prevalent in the real world, that Mulder shooting Scully, or Angel stabbing Buffy, would have a different flavor, possibly resonating with themes of domestic violence or misogynystic hate crimes? Spike threatening to stab Drusilla was not comparable, despite their Sid-and-Nancy love/"literally soulmates", because he wasn't the protagonist. Season 2 of Angel where he has to take on Darla is ... closer ... in emotional resonance. Season 4, it appears that Angel was willing to kill demonically-possessed Cordelia.

			==List of works==
	* [[Alias (TV series)\|Alias]] Season 3x05 "Repercussions" - directed by [[Ken Olin]]; written by [[Jesse Alexander]]. Sydney stabs Vaughn (actually Alias is rife with double agent women betraying their men one way or another)		* [[Alias (TV series)\|Alias]] Season 3x05 "Repercussions" - directed by [[Ken Olin]]; written by [[Jesse Alexander]]. Sydney stabs Vaughn (actually Alias is rife with double agent women betraying their men one way or another)
	* [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series)\|Buffy]] Season 2x22 "Becoming Part 2" - writer & director [[Joss Whedon]] - Buffy stabs Angel		* [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series)\|Buffy]] Season 2x22 "Becoming Part 2" - writer & director [[Joss Whedon]] - Buffy stabs Angel

Lquilter: added another ep

2007-04-17T16:12:46Z

added another ep

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	* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott		* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott
	* [[Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Temple of Life]] - directed by [[Jan de Bont]]; written by [[Dean Georgaris]] - Lara kills the bad guy		* [[Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Temple of Life]] - directed by [[Jan de Bont]]; written by [[Dean Georgaris]] - Lara kills the bad guy
	* [[Xena: Warrior Princess]] episode "[[Mortal Beloved]]" - Xena stabs Marcus (consensually)		* [[Xena: Warrior Princess]]
			** S1 episode "[[Mortal Beloved]]" - Xena stabs her lover Marcus (consensually)
			** S5 episode "[[Antony and Cleopatra (Xena episode)\|Antony and Cleopatra]]" - Xena stabs her would-be lover Antony during combat

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Lquilter: XWP

2007-03-22T14:20:20Z

XWP

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	* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott		* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott
	* [[Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Temple of Life]] - directed by [[Jan de Bont]]; written by [[Dean Georgaris]] - Lara kills the bad guy		* [[Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Temple of Life]] - directed by [[Jan de Bont]]; written by [[Dean Georgaris]] - Lara kills the bad guy
			* [[Xena: Warrior Princess]] episode "[[Mortal Beloved]]" - Xena stabs Marcus (consensually)


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Ide Cyan: Women Attacking Their Lovers moved to Women attacking their lovers: lowercase so it'll be easier to use in a sentence & follow the style guide

2007-02-17T04:44:59Z

Women Attacking Their Lovers moved to Women attacking their lovers: lowercase so it'll be easier to use in a sentence & follow the style guide

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Lquilter: cat

2007-02-17T04:44:04Z

cat

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Lquilter: disambig

2007-02-14T04:23:30Z

disambig

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	Other questions: Are there comparable examples of men killing their lovers on screen, or same-sex couples? Is there something unique to the emotional flavor and context of a woman killing her lover/soulmate? Has a man ever killed his female lover-turned-apocalyptically-evil demon as a sacrifice to the world? Or has it happened so many time that it has little emotional resonance? as in, abuse against women depicted so frequently, or so prevalent in the real world, that Mulder shooting Scully, or Angel stabbing Buffy, would have a different flavor, possibly resonating with themes of domestic violence or misogynystic hate crimes? Spike threatening to stab Drusilla was not comparable, despite their Sid-and-Nancy love/"literally soulmates", because he wasn't the protagonist. Season 2 of Angel where he has to take on Darla is ... closer ... in emotional resonance. Season 4, it appears that Angel was willing to kill demonically-possessed Cordelia.		Other questions: Are there comparable examples of men killing their lovers on screen, or same-sex couples? Is there something unique to the emotional flavor and context of a woman killing her lover/soulmate? Has a man ever killed his female lover-turned-apocalyptically-evil demon as a sacrifice to the world? Or has it happened so many time that it has little emotional resonance? as in, abuse against women depicted so frequently, or so prevalent in the real world, that Mulder shooting Scully, or Angel stabbing Buffy, would have a different flavor, possibly resonating with themes of domestic violence or misogynystic hate crimes? Spike threatening to stab Drusilla was not comparable, despite their Sid-and-Nancy love/"literally soulmates", because he wasn't the protagonist. Season 2 of Angel where he has to take on Darla is ... closer ... in emotional resonance. Season 4, it appears that Angel was willing to kill demonically-possessed Cordelia.

	* [[Alias]] Season 3x05 "Repercussions" - directed by [[Ken Olin]]; written by [[Jesse Alexander]]. Sydney stabs Vaughn (actually Alias is rife with double agent women betraying their men one way or another)		* [[Alias (TV series)\|Alias]] Season 3x05 "Repercussions" - directed by [[Ken Olin]]; written by [[Jesse Alexander]]. Sydney stabs Vaughn (actually Alias is rife with double agent women betraying their men one way or another)
	* [[Buffy]] Season 2x22 "Becoming Part 2" - writer & director [[Joss Whedon]] - Buffy stabs Angel		* [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series)\|Buffy]] Season 2x22 "Becoming Part 2" - writer & director [[Joss Whedon]] - Buffy stabs Angel
	* [[The X-Files]] Season 2x25 "Anasazi" - writer [[Chris Carter]], director [[R. W. Goodwin]] - Scully shoots Mulder		* [[The X-Files]] Season 2x25 "Anasazi" - writer [[Chris Carter]], director [[R. W. Goodwin]] - Scully shoots Mulder
	* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott		* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott

Lquilter: more notes and thoughts

2006-12-10T13:08:23Z

more notes and thoughts

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			In a number of films and TV series, powerful female protagonists attack their lovers/partners, shooting, stabbing, or physically destroying them. The contexts and significance to the plot are different, but it's a recurrent theme/plot device/trope. What does this mean? Anything? Nothing?

			In each of these incidents, the woman kills or attacks someone close to her in a way intended to be shocking or highly emotional.

			This list is meant to trigger reactions and thoughts. Add to it, flesh out the discussions of the works, add counter examples or notes about related , or thoughts about why writers/directors use this plot device/theme -- what it means to them, what they expect it to mean to the [[audience]].

			Other questions: Are there comparable examples of men killing their lovers on screen, or same-sex couples? Is there something unique to the emotional flavor and context of a woman killing her lover/soulmate? Has a man ever killed his female lover-turned-apocalyptically-evil demon as a sacrifice to the world? Or has it happened so many time that it has little emotional resonance? as in, abuse against women depicted so frequently, or so prevalent in the real world, that Mulder shooting Scully, or Angel stabbing Buffy, would have a different flavor, possibly resonating with themes of domestic violence or misogynystic hate crimes? Spike threatening to stab Drusilla was not comparable, despite their Sid-and-Nancy love/"literally soulmates", because he wasn't the protagonist. Season 2 of Angel where he has to take on Darla is ... closer ... in emotional resonance. Season 4, it appears that Angel was willing to kill demonically-possessed Cordelia.

			* [[Alias]] Season 3x05 "Repercussions" - directed by [[Ken Olin]]; written by [[Jesse Alexander]]. Sydney stabs Vaughn (actually Alias is rife with double agent women betraying their men one way or another)
			* [[Buffy]] Season 2x22 "Becoming Part 2" - writer & director [[Joss Whedon]] - Buffy stabs Angel
			* [[The X-Files]] Season 2x25 "Anasazi" - writer [[Chris Carter]], director [[R. W. Goodwin]] - Scully shoots Mulder
			* [[X-Men: The Last Stand]] (XMen movie 3) - directed by [[Brett Ratner]]; written by [[Simon Kinberg]] and [[Zak Penn]] - Phoenix kills Scott
			* [[Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Temple of Life]] - directed by [[Jan de Bont]]; written by [[Dean Georgaris]] - Lara kills the bad guy

	~~Check out these powerful women attacking their lovers.~~

	* Alias Season 3x05 - Sydney stabs Vaughn
	* Buffy Season 2x22 - Buffy stabs Angel
	* The X-Files Season 2x - Scully shoots Mulder
	* X3: Phoenix kills Scott.

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Lquilter: cat

2006-12-09T07:51:02Z

cat

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	* X3: Phoenix kills Scott.		* X3: Phoenix kills Scott.

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