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Hi Ide Cyan -- Would you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)
Hi Ide Cyan -- Would you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)
:Slash Is A Way Of Life. It's an attitude. It's an approach to viweing and reading texts. It's critical essays, conventions, artwork, communities, in-jokes and flamewars and broccoli and green sweaters, oh my! --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 10:55, 6 May 2007 (PDT)
:: It's not JUST fanfiction, but it is primarily fanfiction. Without the fanfiction, slash fandom wouldn't exist: but slash fandom is more than just fanfiction. (Ide Cyan forgot to mention the music vids!) [[User:Yonmei|Yonmei]] 02:59, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
: It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff.  --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
:: How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there '''is''' no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles '''I've''' read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. [[User:Yonmei|Yonmei]] 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
: Any approaches you know about would be helpful ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove [[:category:Fandom]] the next time they think about it. --[[User:Lquilter|LQ]] 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
== The Great Canon Debate ==
;So here's a section to discuss the Great Canon Debate!
My reason for including "non-canon" (relationships) in the definition is/was that: while it had simply been ''unnecessary'' to include this clause prior to the appearance of openly queer characters in relationships in significant roles onscreen, their appearance made it necessary to distinguish between a normative continuation of those relationships in fic and the slashing of uncanonical pairings. I'm reading Yonmei's entry on slash on the blog right now, though, and strongest argument for not including "non-canon" within a definition of slash I can think of is: because slash is about what the women who write it want, and not about the normative continuation of the text we're working from, whether or not those texts do happen to include canonical queer pairings. Which would work for me. And that's my 2¢ (Canadian), for now. --[[User:Ide Cyan|Ide Cyan]] 14:21, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
== Material from elsewhere ==
The problem with providing Slash Theory is not that it doesn't exist, but that there's so bloody much of it!
The Four Waves theory, presented by Lezlie Shell 14 years ago and still cited / recognized / argued about, seems like a good place to start. I haven't edited it much: will try to tweak it some more. [[User:Yonmei|Yonmei]] 15:32, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

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Hi Ide Cyan -- Would you explain what you mean by "It's not JUST fan fiction." in replacing the category "fandom"? --LQ 09:31, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

Slash Is A Way Of Life. It's an attitude. It's an approach to viweing and reading texts. It's critical essays, conventions, artwork, communities, in-jokes and flamewars and broccoli and green sweaters, oh my! --Ide Cyan 10:55, 6 May 2007 (PDT)
It's not JUST fanfiction, but it is primarily fanfiction. Without the fanfiction, slash fandom wouldn't exist: but slash fandom is more than just fanfiction. (Ide Cyan forgot to mention the music vids!) Yonmei 02:59, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
It would be awesome if someone could write about the slash approach to viewing & reading texts, as well as other slash community stuff. --LQ 07:07, 7 May 2007 (PDT)
How many other slash fans edit here, though? Because there is no one "slash approach"... I know about the articles I've read, here and there: other slash fans would know different articles, no doubt. Yonmei 11:39, 8 May 2007 (PDT)
Any approaches you know about would be helpful ... I just think it would be helpful to explain this broader use of slash that Ide Cyan mentioned, and then I or some other category-cleaner-upper will be more disinclined to remove category:Fandom the next time they think about it. --LQ 12:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

The Great Canon Debate

So here's a section to discuss the Great Canon Debate!

My reason for including "non-canon" (relationships) in the definition is/was that: while it had simply been unnecessary to include this clause prior to the appearance of openly queer characters in relationships in significant roles onscreen, their appearance made it necessary to distinguish between a normative continuation of those relationships in fic and the slashing of uncanonical pairings. I'm reading Yonmei's entry on slash on the blog right now, though, and strongest argument for not including "non-canon" within a definition of slash I can think of is: because slash is about what the women who write it want, and not about the normative continuation of the text we're working from, whether or not those texts do happen to include canonical queer pairings. Which would work for me. And that's my 2¢ (Canadian), for now. --Ide Cyan 14:21, 8 May 2007 (PDT)

Material from elsewhere

The problem with providing Slash Theory is not that it doesn't exist, but that there's so bloody much of it!

The Four Waves theory, presented by Lezlie Shell 14 years ago and still cited / recognized / argued about, seems like a good place to start. I haven't edited it much: will try to tweak it some more. Yonmei 15:32, 10 May 2007 (PDT)