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; Numerous blog reactions follow:
; Numerous blog reactions follow:
* [http://misia.livejournal.com/1055120.html?view=16664976#t16664976 Open Source Swift Kick in the Balls Project], Misia
* [http://misia.livejournal.com/1055120.html?view=16664976#t16664976 Open Source Swift Kick in the Balls Project], Misia
* [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/808826.html?thread=9929338#t9929338 CoffeeAndInk]: "Because the way to an egalitarian and less body-conscious utopia is for women's bodies to default to public space. We just don't have enough sexualized treatment of women as bodies instead of whole social persons in public spaces! "
* [http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/808826.html?thread=9929338#t9929338 CoffeeAndInk]: ''Because the way to an egalitarian and less body-conscious utopia is for women's bodies to default to public space. We just don't have enough sexualized treatment of women as bodies instead of whole social persons in public spaces!''
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*[http://rachelmanija.livejournal.com/605708.html A proposal to crush the button-enabled sexual harassment proposal], Rachel Manija, 4/22: ''if I hear that this button scheme is likely to go on at any con I would like to attend, I will contact the management for the hotel in which it takes place, inform them of it, point out the danger of sexual harassment lawsuits, and further inform them that if they do not get the con organizers to ban the buttons from public spaces at the con, and someone gropes me, I will sue the hotel and call the police. And that I will also encourage anyone else who is groped without their consent to sue the hotel and call the police.''
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*[http://kate-nepveu.livejournal.com/323736.html Kate Nepveu], 4/22: ''If you are a stranger, especially a man, perhaps especially in a group of other strangers who are men, and you come up to me and say, "You're very beautiful. I'd like to touch your breasts. Would you mind if I did?": You will put me in fear.''
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; Discussion continues:
; Discussion continues:
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*[http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/808967.html coffeeandink]: ''What people are saying is: Women spend THEIR ENTIRE LIVES IN SEXUALIZED SPACES. All of us. ...What you're suggesting is that instead of the default being "No, you may not touch my body", you want to turn cons -- large public spaces -- into spaces where women have to repeatedly and loudly say no in order to be heard.''
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*[http://the-red-shoes.livejournal.com/1265051.html hell, people got rich selling itty bitty pieces of the Berlin Wall....], Red Shoes, 4/23: An awesome collection of t-shirt-worthy soundbites from the blogospheric outrage.
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*[http://serenejournal.livejournal.com/948058.html?thread=5702234#t5702234%22 pleonastic], 4/22






; Ferrett sort of apologizes:
; Ferrett sort of apologizes:
* [http://theferrett.livejournal.com/1087686.html The Open-Source Boob Project], TheFerrett:  Ferrett recants on his original post with a long preface at the top. Ferrett removes the 1300 comments, then puts them back. This was deemed a [http://wiki.fandomwank.com/index.php/Heidipology heidipology] by some.  
* [http://theferrett.livejournal.com/1087686.html The Open-Source Boob Project], TheFerrett:  Ferrett recants on his original post with a long preface at the top. Ferrett removes the 1300 comments, then puts them back. This was deemed a [[faux-pology]] or [http://wiki.fandomwank.com/index.php/Heidipology heidipology] by some.  





Revision as of 15:37, 23 April 2008

The Open Source Boob Project was a short-lived proposal for women at cons to wear buttons signaling "yes you can (grope my breasts)" or "no you can't (grope my breasts)". Furor ensued; poster recanted in the name of con safety.

Interesting discussions that came out of the furor:

A history in links


Numerous blog reactions follow
  • Open Source Swift Kick in the Balls Project, Misia
  • CoffeeAndInk: Because the way to an egalitarian and less body-conscious utopia is for women's bodies to default to public space. We just don't have enough sexualized treatment of women as bodies instead of whole social persons in public spaces!
  • A proposal to crush the button-enabled sexual harassment proposal, Rachel Manija, 4/22: if I hear that this button scheme is likely to go on at any con I would like to attend, I will contact the management for the hotel in which it takes place, inform them of it, point out the danger of sexual harassment lawsuits, and further inform them that if they do not get the con organizers to ban the buttons from public spaces at the con, and someone gropes me, I will sue the hotel and call the police. And that I will also encourage anyone else who is groped without their consent to sue the hotel and call the police.
  • Kate Nepveu, 4/22: If you are a stranger, especially a man, perhaps especially in a group of other strangers who are men, and you come up to me and say, "You're very beautiful. I'd like to touch your breasts. Would you mind if I did?": You will put me in fear.


Including some excellent ones on TheFerrett's LJ thread


Ferrett tries to explain
Discussion continues
  • coffeeandink: What people are saying is: Women spend THEIR ENTIRE LIVES IN SEXUALIZED SPACES. All of us. ...What you're suggesting is that instead of the default being "No, you may not touch my body", you want to turn cons -- large public spaces -- into spaces where women have to repeatedly and loudly say no in order to be heard.
  • hell, people got rich selling itty bitty pieces of the Berlin Wall...., Red Shoes, 4/23: An awesome collection of t-shirt-worthy soundbites from the blogospheric outrage.
  • pleonastic, 4/22


Ferrett sort of apologizes


... but doesn't end the discussion ...


which breaks the fandom atmospheric barriers

Other summaries


See also

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