Talk:List of stereotypes of female characters

it would be interesting making a discussion about it:

"common portrayals of women in SF/fantasy" vs. "portrayals of women in Feminist SF"

would it indicate failure of feminist sf if there were archetypes? a failure to draw individual and unique and realistic women? not that that means they wouldn't exist, though. LQ 21:05, 6 June 2006 (PDT)

I think there are archetypes that are not stereotypes. Or do we sometimes mean the same things by those words? Is the nagging wife of PK Dick an "archetype"? This might also be a take-off point for outlining female hero-journeys. Inanna's descent into the underworld is archetypal, for example. What makes something an archetype? Maybe... partly that we treat it that way. We reject the "nagging wife" thing from archetype and push it into stereotype, though it has plenty of ancient roots... (Hera in the Odyssey & in Ovid, for one.) LH 6 June 2006

No, I was sloppy in my language and putting it together initially. They're different but related as you point out. LQ 07:30, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Re: the "perfect woman" category, I think we need some better examples. I can see Ayla (though she's miserable through much of Clan of the Cave Bear), but Menolly gets bullied way too much to qualify. I'm kind of blanking on who to put in, instead, though. --Therem 04:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)