Talk:Race and feminist SF
Here I think we could push quite a lot further. For instance noting and making a list of books that exoticize women of color according to well known annoying stereotypes (i.e. "Dragon lady" or "magical negro") and talking about why and how that is problematic.; or listing books with the "what these people need is a honky" problem; this in order to note racist patterns in SF -- WHILE I hope also making lists of writers who are women of color, books that interestingly complicate ideas about race (Think of Mindscape!), books with strong female protagonists and noting and praising what is good. I will make it my project this year to add women of color and books with strong female protagonists who are women of color to the wiki and to add relevant categories. for instance tonight I noticed we didn't even have a "women of color" category!--Liz Henry 00:29, 25 April 2007 (PDT)
resp on race & lists
yaay lists of works & writers. we need many more articles that explain these concepts, with examples embedded, and then whole lists of works that exemplify the concepts; or deconstruct/trouble/reconstruct/parody them; or avoid them in some other useful-model way.
also so many of the books & writers are just bare-bones right now - simply a title & author on the book; simply a writer & list of books on the writer page. we really, really need what you are so good at, which is hitting some of those books & pulling out interesting points of analysis. starting mini-reviews. etc. ...these could all tie into links to discussions at key points -- i'd like to start linking to discussions on chatrooms, listserves, websites, blogs ... etc. anyway - those kinds of links, with those kinds of reviews, would flesh out everything, so that then we could really start having dialog between the wiki pages - a list & discussion of magical negro could then link to all those works which would each discuss more in detail on that work's page.
- See FSFwiki talk:Categorization for my current thinking on the mediawiki category scheme, and how it can work or not work. Quick responses: (1) Women of color should be "Women of color" not "Women of Color". (2) Is it women writers of color, all women of color, just real women of color (not characters or roles)? Try List of female SF writers of color which I think is going to be more useful than the category. Feel free to rename as needed. See FSFwiki talk:Categorization for why I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that categories have very limited functionality and what that functionality might be. --LQ 11:41, 25 April 2007 (PDT)